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To: governsleastgovernsbest; grellis
I can imagine that with hard work and discipline, homosexuals can change their behavior. But I'm dubious that their basic orientation can change. As a heterosexual male, I can't ever imagine ceasing to find women attractive. Why would it be possible for homosexuals to cease finding the same sex attractive?

And so?

Leaving everything else aside for a moment, just put what you're saying in another framework. I'll re-word what you said:

"I can imagine that with hard work and discipline, married men can change their behavior. But I'm dubious that their basic orientation can change. As a heterosexual male, I can't ever imagine ceasing to find other women attractive. Why would it be possible for married men to cease finding multiple women attractive?"

Then put the same thing in the framework of being attracted to children, rape, animals, what-have-you.

Everyone has desires; everyone has wrong desires. How do we know they're wrong? What do we do about them?

That's the central question, the central issue. There are basically only two answers: (1) we can't ever know, so we make it up; or (2) God said.

Dan
Why I Am (Still) a Christian

11 posted on 02/26/2006 7:07:13 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr
"Everyone has desires; everyone has wrong desires. How do we know they're wrong? What do we do about them? That's the central question, the central issue. There are basically only two answers: (1) we can't ever know, so we make it up; or (2) God said. "

Or 3) Because they’re counterproductive to our lives.

14 posted on 02/26/2006 7:25:59 AM PST by elfman2
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