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To: strategofr
Turkey's modern history (since the end of the Ottoman Empire0 has been one of duplicity and opportunism.

In WW2 they signed a mutual non-aggression treaty with Hitler and remained Germany's number one trading partner (supplying over 90% of the chromium needed to run the war machine - in spite of continuous pleas from FDR & Churchill). When the writing was on the wall they declared war on Germany in February 1945. They did this to position themselves as charter members of the UN (only those countries that were at war against the Axis qualified).

In 1950 the USSR was threatening them. They needed in to NATO but Europe didn't want them. They bought their way in by sending a 5,000 man brigade to Korea. They stayed our nominal ally until after the USSR ceased to be a threat.

Now turkey needs access to the EU. In March 2003, in order to curry favor and a favorable decision from Germany and France, they shut the door to our 4ID at the last minute, forcing us to invade Iraq with no northern force.

Turkey is 98% plus muslim. It is against the law to start a Christian church or even give somebody a Bible. The gov't has shut down both existing churches and Christian radio stations.

The turks who propagandized here tried to deny all this and villified any poster who challenged them. A Turk (living in America) actually stated that if push came to shove he would take up arms with the muzzies against the US and would teach his American born sons the same.

121 posted on 02/26/2006 11:12:17 AM PST by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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To: wtc911

"Turkey is 98% plus muslim. It is against the law to start a Christian church or even give somebody a Bible. The gov't has shut down both existing churches and Christian radio stations."

thanks for all the good info. it dovetails nicely with what I know.

but it is also true that Islam was heavily suppressed by Atatürk, is that not so? and in fact, this guy who is currently President was jailed a few years ago for a violent Islamacists poem. Right? so it appears that there really has been a pretty big change recently, with regard to Islam.

I take your point on the shallowness of their "alliance".

I believe the EU will definitely reject them from any kind of membership. the EU wants to commit suicide---but not that rapidly. This rejection will send Turkey bouncing fully into the Muslim world pretty hard.


125 posted on 02/26/2006 7:07:59 PM PST by strategofr ( Davidson: "...50 or more [like Foster]..murdered [by Clintons]." Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. 100)
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