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1 posted on 02/20/2006 10:10:58 AM PST by hipaatwo
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To: hipaatwo

Really worried about Swann's candidacy, aren't you, Fast Eddie?


2 posted on 02/20/2006 10:11:42 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Mo1; Tribune7; PhillyMom

The dead vote is still alive and well in Pa.


3 posted on 02/20/2006 10:11:44 AM PST by hipaatwo
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I hope the GOP nails him to the wall for this idiotic move, but I'm not holding my breath.

Paging Mr. Swann, Mr. Lynn Swann...

4 posted on 02/20/2006 10:12:04 AM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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His main reason for the veto is because it would've eliminated the ability to cheat.


6 posted on 02/20/2006 10:13:26 AM PST by FearNoMan
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This doesn't surprise me. Philadelphia, Rendell's home town, is probably the most corrupt in the Nation since New Orleans isn't a player any longer.


7 posted on 02/20/2006 10:13:29 AM PST by moonman
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There is obviously only one real reason to be opposed to having voters identify themselves, and that is to perpetuate voter fraud. If it is "unconstitutional" to require identification to vote, then so is any regulation that requires identification. The next time a policeman pulls you over for speeding, or a guard at a building asks for identification, be sure to quote Ed Rendell's position on ID. I'm sure it will carry a lot of weight.


9 posted on 02/20/2006 10:15:36 AM PST by speedy
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This will keep the 110% voter turnout going that Phila had 1n Novemeber 2004.


10 posted on 02/20/2006 10:15:37 AM PST by moonman
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Needs corections: Rendell said that the bill, which passed the legislature last week on largely parti-line votes, would have the effect of disenfranchising those without easy access to identification, including nursing-home residents (code word for: dead people), displaced families (people voting in the wrong location), the very poor (those being paid to vote multiple times) and those without a driver's license (more dead people).
11 posted on 02/20/2006 10:15:54 AM PST by WOSG
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Rendell said that the bill, which passed the legislature last week on largely parti-line votes, would have the effect of disenfranchising those without easy access to identification, including nursing-home residents, displaced families, the very poor and those without a driver's license.

Of course the real reason goes unsaid, it would stop the voting fraud that Democrats depend on.

15 posted on 02/20/2006 10:19:39 AM PST by RJL
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Dear Editor:

According to CNN, Bush lost Pennsylvania to Kerry by 121,818 votes (out of more than 5.6 million cast - a razor thin margin and even closer than "too close to call Ohio").

Also according to CNN, Kerry received over 517,000 votes and Bush received over 124,000 votes in Philadelphia (or a ratio of 4.16 for Kerry).

Now, for the really interesting numbers. According to the recent US Census, the Population of Philadelphia that is of voting age is 1,105,066. This number includes people who by law can not vote (non-American citizens, felons, out of state college students, etc.). In 2004, there are 1,035,395 registered voters in Philadelphia, up 34,000 from 2001.

So, what does this mean?

First, even as Philadelphia looses population, the number of registered voters continues to increase year after year. Today, in Philadelphia, nearly 100% of every person of voting age must registered to vote (as compared to a national average of 60% by the Census Bureau). Second, the total lopsidedness of the 4.16 ratio is an absolutely astounding number - even heavily democratic Broward Country, FL (one of the only places Gore wanted recounted in 2000) only went for Kerry 2:1 and Cook County, IL (Chicago - THE definition of the democrat voting machine) only went for Kerry 2.5:1.

Either Philadelphia has the most engaged and civic population in the history of the World, or there is massive voter fraud.

And the amount of fraud easily exceeds the margin of loss of President Bush. For instance, if the registration was slightly above average and if Philadelphia was just your "average-democrat-rustbelt-city-union-stronghold with a 50 year democrat political machine," the vote for Kerry in Philadelphia would have been just over 350,000. The voter fraud in Philadelphia is worth about 150,000 votes - a deficit that any Republican running for statewide office must overcome with real votes.

Best Regards,

2banana


17 posted on 02/20/2006 10:23:49 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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"including nursing-home residents"

Many of whom have Alzheimers or other dementia and Rendel knows he can get party apparatchiks to vote for them . He is a whore.


18 posted on 02/20/2006 10:25:12 AM PST by avile (CHUTZPAH)
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Rendell said that the bill would have the effect of disenfranchising those without easy access to identification, including nursing-home residents, displaced families, the very poor and those without a driver's license.

That might be true but if these people cannot get out to get some form of ID then what makes you think they can get out to vote? These risks he mention are easy to mitigate and it is important to reduce the amount of fraud that takes place.

Rendell is a sad piece of crap.

20 posted on 02/20/2006 10:25:31 AM PST by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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The Republicans should bring forth a bill requiring voters on Election Day to dip their finger in a jar of ink after voting.


21 posted on 02/20/2006 10:26:28 AM PST by D-Chivas
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Everyone knows that the only voters that Governor Rendell doesn't like is the Military Vote.

After all, for the 2004 election, Governor Rendell did not believe that the votes of our troops in Afghanistand and Iraq should have been counted, and worked day and night to prevent their votes from being counted.

The US Dept of Justice had to step in to try to get some of the Military Votes counted in Pennsylvania.

Governor Rendell believes that felons have more rights than our military personnel and showed that with his actions in the 2004 election...

22 posted on 02/20/2006 10:26:47 AM PST by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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Voter Identification is a death blow to the DemocRATic Party. 'RATS cannot get elected without voter fraud.


25 posted on 02/20/2006 10:28:42 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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Rendell said that the bill, which passed the legislature last week on largely parti-line votes, would have the effect of disenfranchising those without easy access to identification

Every time an ineligible fradulent voter places a vote, I am disenfranchised. But Ed Rendell doesn't care about people like us...

28 posted on 02/20/2006 10:31:00 AM PST by Mannaggia l'America
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"Disenfranchisement" is the catch-word they try to use to shut up the opposition. Apparently since you need ID to apply for state aid, get prescriptions, buy alcohol, buy cigarettes, purchase adult products, get insurance, rent a house, etc, etc., somehow only in VOTING does it become "disenfranchisement".

The real reasons Rendell vetoed this bill:
"Governor Rendell doesn't want the people of Pennsylvania to know about the following provisions.:

Extends the deadline by which absentee ballots mailed from our soldiers overseas can be counted
- Under HB 1318, military ballots postmarked by the date of the election and received up to seven days after the election would be counted.
- Did you know that in 2004, the U.S. Department of Justice was forced to sue Governor Rendell to protect the right of military absentee voters to have their ballots counted?

Provides that all polling places be located in an environment free of intimidation and harassment.
- Currently, no such provision exists in Pennsylvania law.
- Did you know that in Philadelphia, the 1st Ward Democratic Headquarters serves as a polling place?

Ensures that all polling places are accessible to the elderly and disabled.
- Did you know that many polls in Pennsylvania are located in basements, private homes and other venues that are not handicapped accessible?

Increases voter confidence by ensuring that your vote will not be cancelled out by a fraudulent vote.
- The bill puts into place an identification requirement for voters
- Under the bill, acceptable identification includes both photo and non-photo ID, including utility bills, copies of a paycheck, or a voter registration card
- These can be obtained without significant effort and without any expense
- Did you know that the bi-partisan Carter-Baker Commission has recommended an ID requirement for voting to provide fairer elections?"

29 posted on 02/20/2006 10:35:40 AM PST by Sisku Hanne (Happy 2006...The Year of the Black Conservative!)
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I've been voting at the same place for the last 6 years. Still asked for ID, I provide it with a smile.

Oh, Yeah. One other thing: Run, Lynn, run!


30 posted on 02/20/2006 10:37:23 AM PST by trimom
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I have to show a photo ID everytime I vote in Florida and it should be a nationwide requirement.


35 posted on 02/20/2006 10:45:49 AM PST by Retired Chemist
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Of course the Democs oppose positive voter identification, how else can the dead vote and the Democs hope to win.
36 posted on 02/20/2006 10:46:46 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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