Posted on 02/20/2006 7:46:11 AM PST by Dark Skies
When President Bush gave his "axis of evil" speech he went out of his way to make the world understand that it isn't a war with Islam itself that we were joining — and I say joining because the war had been started by the Jihadists decades before. And, in observance to our Western principles, that must be the correct way to view our conflagration with radical Islam.
Let's face facts, it certainly is uncomfortable to a Westerner who has been brought up on tolerance, freedom of religion, and liberty to contemplate a war against an entire religion. But are we approaching a time when Western nations won't have a choice but to target Islam itself in certain ways to keep their own people safe. The best course of action is to make public displays of Islam and certain of its practices illegal in Western nations.
So, the question becomes are we at that time now? Are we fast approaching a time when Mosques will be closed and banned? Have we come to a time when Islamic literature is turned away from our borders? Have the childish and dangerous reactions of Muslims to this cartoon in a Danish newspaper proven that Islam cannot be trusted to be a vital, peaceful, and law-abiding segment of society?
It is looking like yes is the answer to these queries.
We are already approaching this today. In Ontario they have officially outlawed Muslim Sharia law, that law that uses religious precepts to enforce moral and society codes of conduct. And Muslim "family councils" have been stopped where local community groups may supplement Canadian law with their local custom.
Several members of the John Howard administration in Australia have spoken out against Islamic clashes with Western notions of law and societal comportment many times over the last few years.
Recently Howard himself said, "I do think there is this particular complication because there is a fragment which is utterly antagonistic to our kind of society, and that is a difficulty ... You can't find any equivalent in Italian, or Greek, or Lebanese, or Chinese or Baltic immigration to Australia. There is no equivalent of raving on about jihad, but that is the major problem."
Muslims routinely destroy property, threaten death and bodily harm to those who speak out against them, and they constantly fund terrorism throughout the world. In Syria they have burnt an embassy, in Europe Muslims have been responsible for murdering people who have written out against Islam or made movies, and other forms of art. These actions are also approved by Islamic teachers (Imams) and religious leaders, not just undertaken by warped loners claiming to represent Islam quite against the will of the majority or authority.
With this ridiculous cartoon issue, we have seen that Islam has no sense of perspective. In the west parody or satire is seen as not only common, but completely harmless for the most part. And religion is not immune to parody and satire, though even in the west most people are often uncomfortable with religious satire. Usually only people filled with hate attack religion in parody and most in the West instinctively know this. As a result, most people dismiss such parody as foolishness and bad taste.
But with Muslims overreacting — in western eyes at least — to this silly cartoon issue in the way they have, it becomes nearly impossible for Westerners to view Islam as a peaceful religion, but more as a vicious hate group itself. And that perception is justified with the actions that Muslims have increasingly perpetrated over the ensuing years. So, we find that Islam presents a danger to the safety of the populace all too often. It is violent, oppressive, and reactionary.
But, what is to be done about it? We have been raised to feel that religion should be left untouched by government. Freedom of religion is at the very core of our beliefs. And this concept is an important one to uphold. So, how can we honestly and without hypocrisy begin to look toward making Islam illegal?
There is a parallel of sorts in the USA that might be used as a template for action. The Ku klux Klan.
After the Civil War ended, the KKK arose from the ashes of war as an advocacy group for the disenfranchised white voter in the south. But it quickly became a terrorist organization bent on taking out revenge on the south's newly freed black population for having lost the war. It got so bad that even one of the original organizers, C.S. Cavalry General Nathan Bedford Forrest, denounced the organization and quit it in disgust.
But as the late 1800s rolled on and the south began to re-enter the Union as full partners in government, the KKK began to lose steam and prominence. For a time it subsided. But as the 20th century neared, it re-emerged and this time became a nationwide and powerful force taking on the flavor of religious, civic and racial duty. The KKK became invested in government and claimed millions of members nation wide.
In the 1920s, however, it became too much for a liberty loving country to allow the KKK to any longer exist. In Indiana, the entire state government was scandalized by their fealty to Indiana's Klan leader who had raped and beaten his secretary on a train trip. Violence against and frequent lynching of southern blacks became so pervasive that Congress finally acted and banned the Klan. The organization collapsed never again to reclaim the power and prominence it once had.
Now, the KKK has always based its precepts on Christianity, as well as racial identity. It also reacted with violence, rallies, death threats and killing when it was threatened. It careened far away from being a mere "idea" or religious theology and became a terrorist organization. And it became a terrorist organization even though literally millions of Americans that belonged to or identified with the Klan were not themselves violent, evil, or dangerous citizens.
The leadership of the Klan supported violence. The leadership preached violence. The leadership planned and fomented it. Therefore, it had to go because it became a danger to every law-abiding citizen, whether they agreed with the racial and religious concepts the Klan espoused or not.
Islam has become the KKK of the 21st century. The sooner we awake to this truth and take steps to ban the religion, or somehow curtail its pernicious influence the better. The west is going to have to put sever restrictions on Islamic Mosques and public display of Islam. Further, devout Muslims should not be allowed to hold public office (though it certainly should not become a racial issue — sins of the father should not be visited upon the sons).
This is no religious purge as in centuries past. In the past religions were banned to be replaced by the state sponsored sect and believers of the banned religion were mistreated, tortured, unduly taxed, and terrorized. This is absolutely not the model the west would follow by banning aspects of Islam today. No religion is replacing Islam and no one is suggesting that Muslims be mistreated. But the creed to which they hold is fast becoming the most dangerous one in the world today. It is a fine line that we walk to consider banning Islam, but the safety of society is at risk not to do so.
This is not an easy conclusion at which to arrive. But if we continue to turn a blind eye to the danger that Islam presents to the west, we are signing our own death warrants.
The KKK was put down in the USA and made powerless for the same reason. Communism was destroyed for the same reason, as well. Islam is a danger to the world.
Unfortunately, it is just that simple.
sorry bout that...message for Freddie got cross-wired. Dang computers!
Understood.. cant stand to "preview" either.
Wastes drinking time. ;o)
I'll check back for life here later.. think I'm coming down with a flu so I'm off to go look for something to help.
Go to bed, both of you. Eggs for breakfast?
I don't have any idea, but working back from the URL I get a link to another belly dancer. Weird.
Back to business.
Thanks for the ping Fred, interesting article.
I'm kind of torn about the subject. My gut reaction is yes, ban Islam, but that would be against the Western ideals of freedom of religion, in addition to against the first amendment. Such a precedent might later be used by someone to ban all religion, or free speech and turn the free western countries into totalitarian societies.
I know something needs to be done. Perhaps Islam must be banned, and if that is the only option left then it should definitely be done.
If there is a law that could apply to Islam and only Islam and no other religion, then yes we should go ahead and ban it.
But rather than deviate from our Western values, I would prefer to just deport all the Muslims back to their own countries, make it illegal to sell the Muslim countries any arms, and just quarantine them in Islamoland away from us. Let them kill each other off, and will the last Muslim alive do us all a favor and kill himself.
If that didnt work or cant be done, I say just wipe them all out.
Those Mooselimb barbarian murderers have infested the world for too long.
A few nukes should do the trick.
regards,
Hill of Tara
it's probably one of Big Mu's wives LOL.
regards,
Hill of Tara
Humma humma...is that you Freddie? Mo Ha Ma...Mama!
DS
Hi Dark Skies,
I'm well. I hope you are too?
take care,
Hill of Tara
I'm an atheist, it does not apply to me...
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When it becomes hate driven, we are damned. Period.
So, you consider hate to be a “sin” of some sort??? Do you even know what hate is?
No man can be allowed to become a law unto himself under the guise of “freedom of religion” - - and that is exactly what the Islamic doctrine says.
If they want to bow and pray to a black meteorite idol everyday at noon, fine. But the second they attempt to usurp my rights and those of whom I love, I will logically give them their justly deserved reward and destroy that idol.
All truths must be tested. Muslims haven't tested Mo (and his words) because the desert and the sword left little opportunity for that.
OK, class...test time. Is mo a liar...or is he just a demon-possessed little bedouin?
Let's put it in the public domain and have a symposium on it.
Jealous?
I have other pictures I ya wanna see them.
That was 6 years ago from a performance in Houston. Spent a week there at Christmas.
Anything else ya wanna know? I've even got a couple of articles on the Dance e-zines.
And your point?
I know what hate is....
Believe me,
I know versions of hate you can only image...I know what it's like to be forced to your knees to pray to a God that hates you...by someone that hates you...before they hurt you...all the while reading the scripture that justifies it...
Over and over and over.
I survived.
I don't want to let it rule my life every again.
I once had a business card of a friend of his. He played
a bit part in a couple of his movies, the Patriot for one.
I'll look for it if you are series, seriously. It was 6
years ago and I even saw that he was on FR back then.
You don't know me from Adam...
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