Posted on 02/20/2006 7:46:11 AM PST by Dark Skies
And you are showing a singular inability to read my post.
I didn't say anything about outlawing religion. I asked if it would be okay to "allow Aztecs to practice human sacrifice". If the answer is no because it is already against the law - then why do we allow American muslim leaders to commit acts of treason and sedition - which is also against the law? Banning religion has nothing to do with my question.
Well said.
Sad. True. But well said.
*click* Another puzzle piece falls into place...
If 911 "changed everything," then let's just repeal the Constitution and be done with it.
Ummmmm, the Joooooooooooos?
*ducking* and running for cover...
I don't know if that's true.
Let's find out...
OK,
My attitude is I want to fight for freedom for anyone to believe anything they want, as long as it doesn't interfer with other's rights.
You wanna believe in Jesus? Great, have at it.
Allah? Sure, go for it.
When it becomes a war of "our god is good yours is bad" I'm outta here. If you've never been under the thumb of someone who has total contempt for you, wants to do you harm and believes God is telling them its OK, then you haven't a clue.
Been there, done that...I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. Yet I see FR full of those who want who have JESUS LOVES YOU in their tag lines and "KILL THEM ALL!!" in their posts.
I refuse to be part of something that corrupt and evil. And I will fight til my last breath for everyone's right to be free. Especially those under the thumb of arrogant cruelty...no matter what the religion.
I want this to be a love driven fight....love of freedom, country, right to believe or not to believe. When it becomes hate driven, we are damned. Period.
"Hitler's Willing Executioners" a book that spells it out clearly. Although there was little-to-no German resistance to Hitler and his devastating policies against the Jews, the German public willingly went along, said nothing and by doing nothing, allowed the policy. The Muslims are much the same. They claim they represent the religion of peace, but say little or nothing about the Muslim terrorists. They openly favor the murderous Pali Hezbollah and Hamas, both terrorist organizations. I think Muslims are an enemy among us to be very concerned about and watched. Our friend Jack Bauer knows that well. OOPS! Dang! He's a TV personality and not available for the mission.
I wouldn't be the slightest bit bothered if we had to drill through glass to recover oil.
I'll break my usual near tea-totaling ways and pop the cork on a champagne sparkling wine bottle when islam and the threat it represents are gone.
I view the the worst Japanese as much more noble than the best møøselimb.
A Japanese kamikaze pilot (And BTW my dad's first introduction to a 'Jap' was when a kamikaze flew feet over his gun emplacement at the base of the 3rd turret on the USS Maryland and polished three gun crews, 12 men total, off the top of that turret) was a noble exercise in defense of country and home.
Whereas a jihadist who sneaks into a pizza parlor to murder children? Not even human.
bttt
Bump for a good post on a good thread.
This is not about my religion. I haven't once said Jesus
wants to kill Muslims. I haven't been to Church for many
many years. It has everything to do with the destruction
of society as we know it.
When it becomes a war of "our god is good yours is bad" I'm outta here. If you've never been under the thumb of someone who has total contempt for you, wants to do you harm and believes God is telling them its OK, then you haven't a clue. ...Been there, done that...I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.
Read what you wrote again. Your statement is about Islam!
Can't you see that? The Muslims have shouted to the four
winds from their highest minarets that they believe this
is a war of "our god is good, yours is bad!" They wish to
put us all "outta here."
I refuse to be part of something that corrupt and evil. And I will fight til my last breath for everyone's right to be free. Especially those under the thumb of arrogant cruelty...no matter what the religion.
I want this to be a love driven fight....love of freedom, country, right to believe or not to believe. When it becomes hate driven, we are damned. Period.
Mrs. Chamberlain, you may love them as they cut at your
neck with a scimitar but I don't want my Grandchildren or
my Nation to become Muslim by the Sword!
Then I must assume you are willing and prepared to LOSE.
War is not - let me repeat that: NOT - something that is "love driven" (in your words. War is war, plain and simple: a violent struggle to vanquish your enemy.
The Islamics know this. Plainly spoken, it is a part of their beliefs (read: jihad).
Do you honestly claim that it was wrong to "hate" the Nazis, and what they represented?
Can you truly believe that it was wrong to "hate" the Japanese in World War II, for their sneak attack on Pearl Harbor and their horrible mistreatment of their victims (including American soldiers, such as my uncle who survived the Bataan Death March)? This doesn't mean we "hate the Japanese" NOW. But - during the struggle - that so-called hatred was a necessary component of the national resolve to see that struggle through to victory.
Hate, my dear, is a vital, and I dare say, NECESSARY, component of war. We have to "hate them" enough to want to WIN above all else.
The Islamics certainly "hate" us.
It's so beautiful "to love" (speaking as a guy who was at the first Woodstock festival). Yes, right. Even Christianity preaches that one should turn the other cheek. But Christianity is not (as has been said about our Constitution) a suicide pact. Before one can love, one must LIVE. And that means defeating enemies - and RELIGIONS (or Islam's pernicious excuse for one) that would defeat, dhimmify, convert and KILL us (and that includes YOU, my dear, unless you are Islamic).
We ARE NOT "damned" by being "hate driven" towards as foul an enemy as Islam. We _must_ hate them to create the fire within that drives us, as a nation and culture (and must also drive the West) to vanquish THEM.
When we have won the victory, then - and only then - we will be able to "put the hate away into its proper place", and enjoy the peace - and "the love".
- John
Dear John,
You missed the point.
I hate evil under the guise of any belief system. Again, get a clue.
I can separate the religion from the people. I can separate Jihadists from Jr. Miss's. I again, refuse to hate because it would make you get all gooey orgasmic.
Damn, the more of these posts I read the sicker I get. Seems there is nothing good to save here....
Or no one. Just a bunch of people I wouldn't want in a 100 miles of me.
If we give up the Constitution, then we deserve anything that they could throw at us. I'd rather be dead.
Give up the Constitution to ban the ideology of islam???
Please explain to me what other religion we allow in the US that call for the killing of others? Islam infringes on the basic right afforded in the Constitution, life, of those who do not chose to become muslim. Even more dangerous than other religions that kill, because the koran teaches muslims to bide their time until they are capable of overthrowing the non-muslims. They pretend to be normal law abiding humans for a while until they are strong enough for their power play.
How is enslaving women even allowed under the Constitution?
Where are we not allowed under the Constitution to defend ourselves from people who's religious goal is the destruction of our Constitution and our freedoms. Islam is not only a religion it is also a government, neither is compatible with the Constitution.
Sorry, but the only way to defend our Constitution and our freedoms is to not allow this ideology here. We have refused to allow other religions to grow and remain that endanger our rights and freedoms this is no different.
This religion is not about some peaceful hippies worshiping the sun bothering nobody that can coexist with the constitution, but a sleeping army waiting to slit our throats and impose sharia law over the US when they feel strong enough. Only fools would allow it to flourish in their midst once they had learned its teachings.
Just a bunch of people I wouldn't want in a 100 miles of me.
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