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Posted on 02/20/2006 7:46:11 AM PST by Dark Skies
When President Bush gave his "axis of evil" speech he went out of his way to make the world understand that it isn't a war with Islam itself that we were joining — and I say joining because the war had been started by the Jihadists decades before. And, in observance to our Western principles, that must be the correct way to view our conflagration with radical Islam.
Let's face facts, it certainly is uncomfortable to a Westerner who has been brought up on tolerance, freedom of religion, and liberty to contemplate a war against an entire religion. But are we approaching a time when Western nations won't have a choice but to target Islam itself in certain ways to keep their own people safe. The best course of action is to make public displays of Islam and certain of its practices illegal in Western nations.
So, the question becomes are we at that time now? Are we fast approaching a time when Mosques will be closed and banned? Have we come to a time when Islamic literature is turned away from our borders? Have the childish and dangerous reactions of Muslims to this cartoon in a Danish newspaper proven that Islam cannot be trusted to be a vital, peaceful, and law-abiding segment of society?
It is looking like yes is the answer to these queries.
We are already approaching this today. In Ontario they have officially outlawed Muslim Sharia law, that law that uses religious precepts to enforce moral and society codes of conduct. And Muslim "family councils" have been stopped where local community groups may supplement Canadian law with their local custom.
Several members of the John Howard administration in Australia have spoken out against Islamic clashes with Western notions of law and societal comportment many times over the last few years.
Recently Howard himself said, "I do think there is this particular complication because there is a fragment which is utterly antagonistic to our kind of society, and that is a difficulty ... You can't find any equivalent in Italian, or Greek, or Lebanese, or Chinese or Baltic immigration to Australia. There is no equivalent of raving on about jihad, but that is the major problem."
Muslims routinely destroy property, threaten death and bodily harm to those who speak out against them, and they constantly fund terrorism throughout the world. In Syria they have burnt an embassy, in Europe Muslims have been responsible for murdering people who have written out against Islam or made movies, and other forms of art. These actions are also approved by Islamic teachers (Imams) and religious leaders, not just undertaken by warped loners claiming to represent Islam quite against the will of the majority or authority.
With this ridiculous cartoon issue, we have seen that Islam has no sense of perspective. In the west parody or satire is seen as not only common, but completely harmless for the most part. And religion is not immune to parody and satire, though even in the west most people are often uncomfortable with religious satire. Usually only people filled with hate attack religion in parody and most in the West instinctively know this. As a result, most people dismiss such parody as foolishness and bad taste.
But with Muslims overreacting — in western eyes at least — to this silly cartoon issue in the way they have, it becomes nearly impossible for Westerners to view Islam as a peaceful religion, but more as a vicious hate group itself. And that perception is justified with the actions that Muslims have increasingly perpetrated over the ensuing years. So, we find that Islam presents a danger to the safety of the populace all too often. It is violent, oppressive, and reactionary.
But, what is to be done about it? We have been raised to feel that religion should be left untouched by government. Freedom of religion is at the very core of our beliefs. And this concept is an important one to uphold. So, how can we honestly and without hypocrisy begin to look toward making Islam illegal?
There is a parallel of sorts in the USA that might be used as a template for action. The Ku klux Klan.
After the Civil War ended, the KKK arose from the ashes of war as an advocacy group for the disenfranchised white voter in the south. But it quickly became a terrorist organization bent on taking out revenge on the south's newly freed black population for having lost the war. It got so bad that even one of the original organizers, C.S. Cavalry General Nathan Bedford Forrest, denounced the organization and quit it in disgust.
But as the late 1800s rolled on and the south began to re-enter the Union as full partners in government, the KKK began to lose steam and prominence. For a time it subsided. But as the 20th century neared, it re-emerged and this time became a nationwide and powerful force taking on the flavor of religious, civic and racial duty. The KKK became invested in government and claimed millions of members nation wide.
In the 1920s, however, it became too much for a liberty loving country to allow the KKK to any longer exist. In Indiana, the entire state government was scandalized by their fealty to Indiana's Klan leader who had raped and beaten his secretary on a train trip. Violence against and frequent lynching of southern blacks became so pervasive that Congress finally acted and banned the Klan. The organization collapsed never again to reclaim the power and prominence it once had.
Now, the KKK has always based its precepts on Christianity, as well as racial identity. It also reacted with violence, rallies, death threats and killing when it was threatened. It careened far away from being a mere "idea" or religious theology and became a terrorist organization. And it became a terrorist organization even though literally millions of Americans that belonged to or identified with the Klan were not themselves violent, evil, or dangerous citizens.
The leadership of the Klan supported violence. The leadership preached violence. The leadership planned and fomented it. Therefore, it had to go because it became a danger to every law-abiding citizen, whether they agreed with the racial and religious concepts the Klan espoused or not.
Islam has become the KKK of the 21st century. The sooner we awake to this truth and take steps to ban the religion, or somehow curtail its pernicious influence the better. The west is going to have to put sever restrictions on Islamic Mosques and public display of Islam. Further, devout Muslims should not be allowed to hold public office (though it certainly should not become a racial issue — sins of the father should not be visited upon the sons).
This is no religious purge as in centuries past. In the past religions were banned to be replaced by the state sponsored sect and believers of the banned religion were mistreated, tortured, unduly taxed, and terrorized. This is absolutely not the model the west would follow by banning aspects of Islam today. No religion is replacing Islam and no one is suggesting that Muslims be mistreated. But the creed to which they hold is fast becoming the most dangerous one in the world today. It is a fine line that we walk to consider banning Islam, but the safety of society is at risk not to do so.
This is not an easy conclusion at which to arrive. But if we continue to turn a blind eye to the danger that Islam presents to the west, we are signing our own death warrants.
The KKK was put down in the USA and made powerless for the same reason. Communism was destroyed for the same reason, as well. Islam is a danger to the world.
Unfortunately, it is just that simple.
From my experience with Canine Domesticus I'll consider that a complement that I can't accept.
They are still spreading their evil all over the globe, poisoning the next generation of "believers" and trying to undermine us.
Yeah. Sh&t like 9/11 will have that effect on you. I know it's been a long time for some people and they would just like to pretend it didn't happen. But sort of like the Jews and the holocaust, some of us still remember it vividly and don't intend for it to happen again.
No, but his guilt by association will not work either. Hitler's remark about the jews was false. It has yet to be shown a similar statement about islam is also false. The preponderance of evidence thus far tends to indicate such a statement is true to a greater degree than stereotypes.
You're advocating murder. Reasonable people will never let that happen, you deal with it.
Touché!
I have reached a point in my studies where I can say quite honestly, I think I know more than a little about arabs and islam, about it's history, it's objectives, its followers and their aims. Not half as much as you, but enough to tell me this ideology will, if we do not stand firm, ultimately be the end of our culture. If they don't manage to destroy us with force, with a thousand nine-elevens at once, or insurrections and riots worldwide, they will do it by undermining and worming their way into our institutions, our educational materials are already being revised and reflect islamic untruths and distortions of history.
Like a pack of wolves that chase it's prey until it drops, and bleeds to death from being mauled, we too, will, if we run from it, eventually (they hope) become exhausted and give up, and lie down and quietly die.
There are bystanders to this scenario, who say, oh but the wolf must eat. Let him have just one more deer, there are plenty to go around. This, they say, until the 'deer' that is prey, is one of their own.
Islam has us in its sights. Three thousand five hundred years ago, the arabs came out of the Peninsula driving their camels and sheep before them in the thousands. They waited until the agriculturalists had produced a field filled with crops, and just prior to harvest, they drove their animals into the fields, killed the agriculturalists and their beasts of burden, destroyed their implements, and after taking what women and children they wanted for slaves, left the remainder to starve.
Islam was nothing but the 'making holy' of an ancient, parasitic culture - mohammad gave them allah - and allah, conveniently for islam, wants them to have the whole world.
Whoever's left will be convinced that the submission of Islam means submission to the West.""
I believe you are dangerously naive, along with most other Americans.
Our troops are doing their duty with dignity and honor, as they always do. And as always there are among those worthy of the sacrifices our troops make to protect them, an even larger mob of totally undeserving slugs that our troops would love to blow away and would if they were allowed to do so.
Thanks to those of your mind set, the fine warriors on this thread and everyone else in America (and the world) will surely have an opportunity to test their metal, when the war on terror comes to our shores. I'm prepared to resist. Are you prepared to resist? Or do you plan to kneel toward Mecca with your as to the west?
Iraq isn't over yet. No one wants it to fail...but really, although our troops are very brave, beautiful young men, it's all in the experimental stage, still, isn't it?
Will Democracy work in Iraq?
When will we know? Can we leave while Iran is threatening us?
Patience. No one is threatening to kill l1.5 million muslims. It's ISLAM that is threating US!
as= ass.
You're right that I'm dangerous.
Other than that you are quite wrong.
If we don't stop this now.... America will become another EURabia and history will repeat itself:
(Note these polls will reflect only those who are brave or stupid enough to admit their thoughts to the kuffar)
UK poll: 37% of Muslims in Britain think British Jews are a "legitimate target"
40% of (British)Muslims want sharia law in UK
'The day is coming when British Muslims form a state within a state.'
The Saudis have "radicalized" 80% of US mosques with their cash and wahabbi brand of salafyism (see here and here ) and are doing the same in many other nations.
THIS IS GOING TO BE THE CONTENDER FOR THE FACE OF "MAINSTREAM ISLAM"
Now, when do we wake up and do something about it?
It spreading as we speak.
If the PC crowd, apologists and useful idiots tie our hands at home, we have to take the battle to its source and neutralize it there.
Check out this thread.
I have been busy fitting an Earthquake Lever to this little beauty. Hope it works.
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