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Making Islam illegal -- is it the West's only choice?
Renew America ^ | 2/19/2006 | Warner Todd Huston

Posted on 02/20/2006 7:46:11 AM PST by Dark Skies

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To: najida

What happens next is that we either get over the technicality of Islam allegedly being a religion and deal with it as it deserves to be dealt with, or, their unreformed and currently-in-the-hands-of-evil-people cult will nuke our civilization into submission.


561 posted on 02/20/2006 11:56:23 AM PST by thoughtomator
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To: griffin
Isn't that essentially what the neighbors of the 9/11 terrorist hijackers said after the fact?

It's also said about postal workers, serial killers, doctors, lawyers, drug dealers, cat killers, dog rapists, baby sitters, kidnappers, Michael Jackso (no, not him, nevermind)

562 posted on 02/20/2006 11:56:58 AM PST by najida (Me arguing for logic and against emotion is like Mother Teresa becoming a pole dancer.)
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To: MineralMan
??? OK..I know that bump means (to be in agreement with)..what in the world is GRIND?
563 posted on 02/20/2006 11:57:32 AM PST by Earthdweller ("West to Islam" Cake. Butter your liberals, slowly cook France, stir in Europe then watch it rise.)
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To: thoughtomator

Deal with it how?


564 posted on 02/20/2006 11:57:43 AM PST by najida (Me arguing for logic and against emotion is like Mother Teresa becoming a pole dancer.)
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To: griffin

"Isn't that essentially what the neighbors of the 9/11 terrorist hijackers said after the fact?
"

I don't know. What I do know is that no armed killers will come into my neighborhood unchallenged. It is not going to happen. That applies to gang members. That applies to racists. That applies to those who would kill someone for their religious beliefs.

I have some hard principles, and that's one of them. Had I lived in a place where the Klan came to burn someone's home or burn a cross on their lawn, I'd have been there, too, armed and ready to defend my neighbors.

I'm not alone, either. Some of us who swore an oath to uphold the Constitution when we joined the military still take that oath seriously. Very seriously.


565 posted on 02/20/2006 11:58:31 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan

Hang in there and Git Er Done.


566 posted on 02/20/2006 11:59:06 AM PST by silentreignofheroes (When the Last Two Prophets are taken there will be no Tommorrow!)
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To: Earthdweller

Bump and grind....

I know!

You remind him of Gypsy Rose Lee!


567 posted on 02/20/2006 11:59:38 AM PST by najida (Me arguing for logic and against emotion is like Mother Teresa becoming a pole dancer.)
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To: Earthdweller

Just some humor. Sorry. The old Bump and Grind. I get a little punchy around the 500th post in a thread. [grin]


568 posted on 02/20/2006 11:59:55 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan

The you are willing to take up arms against Muslim in this country who preach the overthrow of the Constitution and its replacement with Sharia law?


569 posted on 02/20/2006 12:00:15 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: sakic
Since you are unable I'll help you. It was Hitler. You may have heard of him but I guess I shouldn't assume anything.

No DUH? Hitler probably also said "This is good coffee", are you going to swear off coffee forever just because Hitler liked it?

And as far as assuming anything goes, why do you assume the constitution protects religion, when it hasn't done a very good job of it so far?

570 posted on 02/20/2006 12:04:15 PM PST by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: paul51
Nope, the war is underway. Take the battle to the enemy and stay on the offense

I'm not talking about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. I'm addressing the thread's original hypothetical of "banning Islam" in the US. Sure, there may be a fine line between "ideological" war and actual, physical war. Any Muslim known to view Islam itself as warfare should obviously be watched closely. Very closely. No argument there.

Still, "misguided believer" is not the same as "aggressor." There have been no attacks on US soil after 9/11/01 NOT because we "banned Islam," but because we're vigilantly pursuing suspected terrorists and their supporters. There is no need to physically "take the battle" to non-combatants.

571 posted on 02/20/2006 12:05:37 PM PST by Freedom_no_exceptions (No actual, intended, or imminent victim = no crime. No exceptions.)
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To: JCEccles

"The you are willing to take up arms against Muslim in this country who preach the overthrow of the Constitution and its replacement with Sharia law?"




I will take up arms in response to ACTION, not WORDS. Talk is cheap, as we've seen in this thread. Action requires counter-action.

Of course I will take up arms against any Muslim or anyone else who attempts to actually overthrow our Constitution. I will not take up arms against someone who is talking about it.

I respond to acts, not words.


572 posted on 02/20/2006 12:05:41 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: najida
Ah, now that's a good question. I would say that any way that ends the threat to our civilization from Islam is adequate. The specifics of what we will need to do to end that threat are a topic on which there should be much attention. I would be happy for the moment just to see the conversation move from "should we deal with them" to "how should we deal with them".
573 posted on 02/20/2006 12:06:31 PM PST by thoughtomator
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To: najida
"You remind him of Gypsy Rose Lee!"

LOL. I ain't no gypsy! I'm a lady I is!

MY cousin is sweet Georgia Brown. Is that close enough?

574 posted on 02/20/2006 12:08:51 PM PST by Earthdweller ("West to Islam" Cake. Butter your liberals, slowly cook France, stir in Europe then watch it rise.)
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To: thoughtomator

I think that is what a lot are debating.

I agree, we need to deal with them.
But we have hoping for the best on one end and
killing them all on the other.


575 posted on 02/20/2006 12:09:43 PM PST by najida (Me arguing for logic and against emotion is like Mother Teresa becoming a pole dancer.)
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To: nmh

"Voodoo is not allowed here". .....Sure it is. Go to Miami and look at the adherents of "Santeria" a form of "Voodoo". This is widespread in the Haitian "community" in South Fla. Also there are still remnants of Voodoo in Pre-Katrina NOLA.


576 posted on 02/20/2006 12:12:46 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis)
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To: Wormwood

Name one American beheaded on American soil by an American Muslim acting purely in the name of Islam.

Just one.


John Mohamud and his little sidekick...as well as Assan Ackbar with the 101st. They all went to the same mosque locaated in Baton Rouge, LA. That's 3 that came out of the islamic closet to create just a personal little jihad. Like A Duck In A Noose. Simply put, islam is a death cult. If you apologize for their criminal behavior, like an apologist of islam would, where does that place your intentions?


577 posted on 02/20/2006 12:14:01 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: eastforker
True, if Hitler had contained his attrocities to just Germany for 20 years longer, instead of invading his neighbors, it very well could have turned into a religious movement.

LOL... yeah, I can see that.. a few Aryan priests and the occasional Jew killing ceremony, and they could elevate the whole stinkin NAZI movement into a state "religion."

578 posted on 02/20/2006 12:17:17 PM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: najida

We need to resolve ourselves to do what is necessary to solve this problem - even if the only way to do it turns out to be "kill 'em all." Only then will we be in the position to convince to modify their behavior in such a way that we won't be forced to do so.

I hope there's a less bloody solution. But under no circumstances will I let my desire (and more broadly, the general desire among civilized people) for a less bloody solution become an enemy strategic advantage in his quest to kill or conquer us.


579 posted on 02/20/2006 12:18:45 PM PST by thoughtomator
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To: MineralMan
The imperialist, racist demon that achieved its vile outworking in pre-war Shintoism was exorcised at the cost of millions of lives and two nuclear bombs. What will it take to exorcise the racist demon of radical Islam as it rolls through the earth on a mission to culturally dominate the planet?

Despite your posturing, I suspect you are not willing to pay the price.

580 posted on 02/20/2006 12:19:39 PM PST by JCEccles
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