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To: Shalom Israel

“On the contrary. If I shoot you as a trespasser, that's an act of self-defense. “

As I noted, using your standard our relationship is as if we shared the same forest 10000 years ago. If I think you are going to use force against me for some ridiculous reason of your own (you don’t believe in the social contract and I haven’t agreed to any of the contracts you say I agreed to so we have no commonality) then it is a matter of self defense to use force to prevent you from doing so.

“ Contracts have nothing to do with giving me the right of self-defense. That right is inalienable, and does not proceed from any human agreement or institution. “

Which is why I can use force as noted above.

“Back when you weren't a trespasser, a contract was what made your presence licit. “

There are no contracts between us.


“That's what protected you from my fiery vengeance. “

Yeah, right.

“When you breached the contract, the protection was removed, and you became a trespasser. “

What part of there is no contract between us do you not understand?

“Being a trespasser, my right to self defense is back in force, and I plug you full of lead not because a contract says I can, but because it's my inalienable right as a property owner.”

As I noted, using your standard our relationship is as if we shared the same forest 10000 years ago. You don’t believe in the social contract and I haven’t agreed to any of the contracts you say I agreed to so we have no commonality. That being the case, how do you claim any right as a property owner of land? Who agreed that you could mark off a section of the forest that everybody else was using yesterday and call us trespassers for using it today?


491 posted on 02/27/2006 8:30:42 PM PST by KrisKrinkle
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To: KrisKrinkle
As I noted, using your standard our relationship is as if we shared the same forest 10000 years ago. If I think you are going to use force against me for some ridiculous reason of your own (you don’t believe in the social contract and I haven’t agreed to any of the contracts you say I agreed to so we have no commonality) then it is a matter of self defense to use force to prevent you from doing so.

You persistently fail to recognize the existence of private property. That makes any sort of discussion rather pointless. Among other things, it means that when you find yourself on someone else's land, and he does something about it, you're confused enough to claim the right to defend yourself against the property owner.

What part of there is no contract between us do you not understand?

If there's no contract, and you're on my land, then you are an aggressor and I have the right to defend my self and property. You can't claim "self defense", since you're already in process of committing a criminal act.

493 posted on 02/28/2006 3:13:00 AM PST by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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