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To: Shalom Israel
You realize that you simply keep repeating yourself, right?

why don't you explain how you aren't violating his property rights when you enter it without his permission?

I have his permission [in most cases mandated by local ordinance's] to park my vehicle on his lot while working.
My gun in my vehicle trunk in no way violates any of his rights. -- Thus his irrational "condition" is a violation of my right to carry a gun to & from work.

No, you don't.

You deny reality. Most local parking ordinance's mandate off street company parking.

You have his permission to park it with no guns inside.

Thus his irrational "condition" is a violation....

His conditions don't have to be "rational".

Quite a few States now differ.

Irrelevant. Quite a few other states have unconstitutional restrictions on the right to keep and bear arms. What does that prove?

It only proves that a lot of different people like you are irrational about guns, izzy.

States agree that we have a right to carry arms to & from work, and are protecting that right from irrational infringements made by people like you.

It's his. When you buy zucchini, it's yours. You can eat it, or carve it into a totem pole, or fall down and worship it, or use it as a baseball bat, or sit on it and rotate. It's yours. It doesn't look like we'll ever agree on this simple idea. But that does tell me one thing about you, and if I were your boss I'd probably fire you--not because of the gun in your car, but because I can be sure you will not respect property in other ways. If I lend you a company car to do company business, you would most likely drive it on your errands as well, because "you have my permission to use it." With similar reasoning, you will routinely violate any of my rules that you don't consider "rational," and will use things I didn't want you to use, in ways I didn't want you to use them, for purposes I didn't want you to use them for. And of course you'll steal. Oh, you won't embezzle or anything, but I already know I'll recognize all sorts of items when I visit your home, such as office supplies. After all, you "have my permission to use office supplies"...

Another bunch of irrational personal remarks, made because you can't argue your position in a logical manner. Be ashamed izzy.

You have not tried once so far to logically argue why a person doesn't actually have the power to decide who does and who doesn't use his property, or how his property is used. Try now.

Why should I argue against our property rights? My car trunk is my property, and I have the power to use it to store a weapon while I'm working. -- My employer has no power to infringe on that right by using irrational reasoning about his own rights being 'violated'.. My trunk is not his property, and nothing in it can 'violate' his property.

Get it yet izzy?

310 posted on 02/22/2006 2:11:02 PM PST by tpaine
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To: tpaine
Why should I argue against our property rights?

Your trunk is your property. You can put anything in it you please. Your employer's parking lot is his property, and he gets to say whether your car is allowed there. He said it is, as long as there are no guns in it. If you can't get that through your head, then further discussion is fruitless.

Curiously, I notice you have conspicuously avoided claiming you can bring your gun into the building, even though a weapon carried on your person is your constitutional right. Why not? Simple: you do realize that your employer can ban personal firearms in the work place. If you pondered that, you would realize that he can ban anything he wants on his property, including his parking lot. Forcing him to do otherwise is a violation of his rights.

His rule isn't a violation of your rights, because you have no right to enter his property at all. It's a privilege granted, or not, by the property owner.

311 posted on 02/22/2006 2:16:32 PM PST by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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