First Americans May Have Been European

LiveScience.com ^ | 2/19/06 | Bjorn Carey

[Fred Nerks]

It's no wonder we cannot agree on where the original settlers of the Americas and the Australian continent came from; we don't know how long ago it was that the earth was smaller, and all life upon it lived on the same landmass. Think about it. Ducking for cover now.

[mad_as_he$$]

Themselves?

[Fred Nerks]

Is the ocean floor trying to tell us something?

[SunkenCiv]

Some nerve, eh? ;')

Buncha bleepin' vegans!

Ancient People Followed 'Kelp Highway' To America, Researcher Says
Live Science | 2-19-2006 | Bjorn Carey
Posted on 02/20/2006 6:32:34 PM EST by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1582387/posts

[Ptarmigan]

LOL! That's really funny!

[Spunky]

Thanks for posting that. Where did you find it as when I did a Google Search it didn't come up with any Siberian Points?

[Fred Nerks]

I studied the subject about three years ago, and printed out the page. Couldn't believe it today when I found the link still works.

This one is a beauty:

http://www.eki.ee/books/redbook/introduction.shtml

See Aleuts for example, on the left, Index.

[SauronOfMordor]

But heading out to blue water means provisioning: salted meat, barrels of water, veggies in straw, etc. A military-style naval expedition that I don't think was possible 20,000 years ago.

The article postulates that the Europeans came over in the process of hunting seals. Meaning that their boats would have stayed close to the Northern ice. Paddle for a while, find a seal colony on an ice floe, hunt some seal, eat some seal, paddle west some more. Ice is fresh water -- don't need barrels. Eskimos have been surviving just fine for millenia on a diet of seals and fish (no fruit grows in the polar regions)

[quadrant]

I did not argue who established a successful culture in the Americas, but claimed only that the PC crowd would deny that anyone did so except those they call native Americans.
Personally, I don't care who accomplished the feat, for the event is so remote in time as to be of interest on to academics.

[RobbyS]

One view is that Siberians came to Norfth America by following ther fringe of the icepack. Why couldn't Europeans do the same?

[BJungNan]

Europeans and american descendents where not the ones that invented succesfull governments.

Big difference between what you said and what I said. I said the best system of government and justice.

[SunkenCiv]

http://www.livescience.com/history/060219_first_americans.html

[SunkenCiv]

Coastal Navigators:
The First Americans May Have Come by Water
by Brad Lepper
Discovering Archaeology
February 2000

Supporting this conclusion, paleontologists have found no animal bones dating between about 21,000 to 11,500 years ago in the region formerly believed to have been the ice-free corridor. This evidence demonstrates fairly conclusively that the ice-free corridor did not exist during the last Ice Age. And it precludes a mid-continental route for human entry before about 11,000 years ago. Deglaciation along the Northwest Coast of North America had begun by about 14,000 years ago (16,800 cal BP) and was sufficiently advanced to enable humans using watercraft to colonize coastal areas by 13,000 years ago (15,350 cal BP). The remains of land and sea mammals, birds, and fish dating to this time have been discovered along the Northwest Coast, demonstrating sufficient resources existed along the coast for people to have survived.

[SunkenCiv]

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