Posted on 02/14/2006 3:24:30 PM PST by SJackson
Zionists?
My reading ended here.
Yeah, a 2fer would be nice. I was thinking the same think when that crazy Iranian President, Ajidemadwjwe3jd&as or whatever the hell his name is goes to Cuba, it would be nice if while he and Castro are embracing an "accidental" cruise missile launch zeroes in on their clutch.
D-lusional
Oh please...
Hasn't this guy heard of voice-printing? The technology of which has only been around since say the 1950s? Doesn't he think that every one of the lib-suck news media, which would purely love to nail the Bush administration to the barn door with an ax, hasn't checked out those tapes.
And what about other nations? All those independent police and intelligence services are going to line up and salaam to the Bush line?
All those Arab countries were just going to sit there and let the CIA blame them and Islam for 9/11? Arabs may not be the brightest boys in town, but they do have a lot of bucks and if there had been any question about those tapes they would have known it.
This does not even include the numerous Bin Laden family members who know him personally.
As conspiracy theories go, this one is worst than most. The only moderately alarming thing I read in this article is that somewhere some university gave this kook a PhD.
Same here Mike. So, I understand taking a particular post, forming an opinion quickly, and firing off a post.
I've also been wrong many times. Fortunately, most freepers understand. It's honorable to admit a mistake. Believe me, I make MANY of them.
Mike, take a chill pill. This is "know-your-enemy" stuff.
SJackson is not posting this because he believes it, he's posting it to keep us informed of what the other guys are doing.
He hasn't stated that to your face because he figures you should have figured that out for yourself.
BTW, if you look at his sheet, SJackson has been a FReeper since Jan. 2000 giving him three months Free Republic seniority over you.
Neither one of you are trolls.
Of all the infinite possibilities this is all was can choose?
'Nuff said.
I rest my case.
Thanks. . .and the above rests this case for me as well.
Someone should have asked Barrett whether he thinks the Holocaust really happened. . .or not. . .
That was his JEWISH mother; not his female parent! The Mossad made her say that! < /sarc > [put for those who seem to need it, having graduated from American universities, after attending public schools.]
Jewish mother? Heh. I've really got to slow down when I'm scanning through this stuff.
The myth that 9/11 had something to do with Muslims
Ok I read this, did I miss his defence of this statement?
So you don't pay attenttion, but you do pay attention? I've got my panties in a twist, and I shouldn't be rude.
I think I'd rather not take advice from you. Thank you.
ML/NJ
Thank you for your gracious reply. Hey, I'm human! We all are.
"He hasn't stated that to your face because he figures you should have figured that out for yourself.
BTW, if you look at his sheet, SJackson has been a FReeper since Jan. 2000 giving him three months Free Republic seniority over you.
Neither one of you are trolls."
Thank you for acknowledging I'm not a troll. Perhaps as you say "I should have figured out for myself" Jackson's intent. It's not as if we don't have people on FR who do post troll content for the purpose of propagandizing us. And I did notice that SJackson had "seniority over me," for whatever that's worth but I thought that no guarantee of not being a troll. Indeed, I thought it possible he is a Buchananite or someone else on the far right who opposes what we're doing in Iraq, since some on the far right are as anti-war as some on the far left. I made a mistake and apologized, but I don't think it was a stupid mistake. I noticed a pattern to the postings and questioned it, that's all. Now can everyone take a chill pill on me?
"So you don't pay attenttion, but you do pay attention?"
Huh?
Take a cold shower and calm down...sheesh, it's just a blog. Is it REALLY worth this kind of rancor, especially over something that didn't involve you and which resolved itself politely between me and SJackson? Let it go...
Funny. He's right about one thing though, bin Laden hasn't issued a tape since our attack on Afghanistan.
Because he's DEAD.
I don't see infinite possibilities. I see very few and they would all require a conspiracy between the West and the radical Muslims. Last I checked, we are at war with each other.
Here's the way I look at it. If OBL is dead, then either the U.S. Super Double Secret Intelligence is behind all these "fake" tapes, or Al Qaeda is. SOMEBODY is feeding these "fake" tapes to Al Jazeera and the supplier would have to be US or them. Remember, IF OBL is dead, his AQ supporters KNOW IT. If WE were the source of the "fake" tapes, AQ would KNOW that they are fakes of a dead man and KNOW that they aren't producing them, so they would KNOW that they are coming from US. Why would WE produce "fake" tapes when we KNOW that they would KNOW that they are fake? That makes NO SENSE, WHATSOEVER. And what purpose of ours is served by producing "fake" tapes to keep OBL "alive" when he's really dead? Wouldn't we be better served by announcing that he's dead? Wouldn't that be a great victory in the WOT? Does Bush look weaker or stronger with OBL alive? That's a no-brainer. Again, if we are producing these tapes, we are obviously orchestrating a conspiracy. Al Qaeda would be complicit in the conspiracy by their silence. Has AQ or any radical Muslims cast any doubt on the tapes or had anything bad to say about them? NO! Why is that? Quite obviously, it's because they believe they are genuine. To suggest that they are remaining silent to help us pull off this charade is ludicrous. Again, it's not even a question of whether we could "fool" them into believing the tapes are real. If OBL is dead, they KNOW for a fact the tapes are bogus.
The other possibility is that OBL is dead and that AQ is behind the tapes. There are many reasons to believe that this isn't the case. First of all, we give WAY too much credit to AQ to think they could pull off fake video and audio of OBL. These are cave-dwelling desert rats, not Hollywood film makers. Would they risk putting out "fake" tapes? No way. For all they know, we could easily determine the authenticity of a tape, disprove it, and make them look like complete morons. I don't think they would take that risk if they were even capable, which I don't believe they are. But for the sake of argument, let's assume that somehow they have made these "fake" tapes and put them out. The CIA has not said a single one of the OBL tapes are bogus. They have authenticated them. Do you really believe that AQ could produce good enough tapes to fool our best intelligence? You would have to assume that AQ knows exactly how our intelligence experts authenticate voices and faces and how to defeat that. Do you give AQ that much credit? I sure don't. So, that leaves us with a single possibility - AQ is producing "fake" tapes and the CIA knows they are fake, yet continue to "authenticate" them, making themselves complicit in this conspiracy to keep OBL "alive". The question then is obviously, WHY? Is it possible for all the experts to collude like that and for that to not leak out? NO WAY. Again, we are back to the question of FOR WHAT PURPOSE? How does it help US to keep OBL "alive"? It clearly doesn't! Bush said he wanted him dead or alive. It would make NO SENSE, WHATSOEVER for us to keep him "alive" if we know that he's dead.
All of these "fake" tape roads lead to a dead end. No, we aren't in a conspiracy with AQ to keep OBL alive. The tapes are real, OBL is alive, and the hunt continues. Sometimes, things really are what they appear to be.
Many alternative approaches to the question can produce many dark scenarios, not all of which need be vast conspiracies. It might be just a couple of guys hatching a plot while killing off a few gallons of wine.
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