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Wipe your iPod before selling it, RIAA warns
The Register ^ | Monday 13th February 2006 | Tony Smith

Posted on 02/13/2006 11:02:23 AM PST by nickcarraway

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To: Lou L

apple is under no legal penalty for how you use the device.


41 posted on 02/13/2006 11:20:38 AM PST by oceanview
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To: SmoothTalker

Hey RIAAA, sing with me:

Ch-ch-ch-aaaanges! Turn and face the strange!

You may send me a bill for 2 cents in royalty fees due David Bowie.


42 posted on 02/13/2006 11:20:46 AM PST by Callahan
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To: nickcarraway

The RIAA can wipe my butt.


43 posted on 02/13/2006 11:21:18 AM PST by hollywood (Stay on topic, please.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

since the senators and congressman they bought, gave them the laws they needed to be able to do so.


44 posted on 02/13/2006 11:21:39 AM PST by oceanview
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To: nickcarraway

That is an interesting question.

They say yes, but you are allowed to make one copy for "back up". What good is a backup if you need the original to use it?


45 posted on 02/13/2006 11:22:26 AM PST by IL Republican
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To: Lou L
Apple hasn't thought this out well

If you think having an ERASE EVERYTHING ON THIS iPOD option is a good idea, then you haven't spent enough time on a tech-support help line.

46 posted on 02/13/2006 11:22:28 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: nickcarraway
Agree in general. It is illegal and immoral to buy a bunch of CDs, load them onto several iPods, then sell the iPods for a premium. That violates even the original spirit of the Copyright Clause, not just the warped version we have today.

However, the RIAA lawyer ignores the legally established rights of a secondary market in copyrighted goods. As long as that song has left your possession during a sale, the RIAA has absolutely zero, zilch, nada say in it through the Doctrine of First Sale. Well, at least that's how First Sale should be applied -- who knows how their lobbyists and lawyers are twisting it.

47 posted on 02/13/2006 11:22:49 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Izzy Dunne

yes, but that rethink is headed to a total elimination of fair use, and full digital rights management on every possible device.


48 posted on 02/13/2006 11:23:09 AM PST by oceanview
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To: jpl
Oddly enough, I don't think I've ever heard software companies claiming that you're a criminal if you don't wipe your entire hard drive clean before selling your computer to someone else.

Actually, the terms are pretty similar. The typical EULA says you cannot rent the software to someone, but it's OK to sell it, as long as all copies of the software are transferred to the buyer, and you give them a copy of the terms of use. So, essentially the same position legally, but stated without the attitude that presumes you're out to steal something.

49 posted on 02/13/2006 11:23:53 AM PST by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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To: jpl
I don't think I've ever heard software companies claiming that you're a criminal if you don't wipe your entire hard drive clean before selling your computer to someone else.

I'll bet it IS a crime. But the SPA doesn't have the gravy train that the RIAA (and MPAA) does.

50 posted on 02/13/2006 11:24:21 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: nickcarraway

RIAA - Really Ignorant Aged A**holes?

Ok, sales are down. Idol beats the Grammys.
Could it be that the product is bad, and that they're alienating the exact people they want to sell to?

Naaaaaaw. It's just they haven't gotten tough enough on their customer base.

Sheesh. These idiots must have gone to the same business schools as the execs at Ford and GM!


51 posted on 02/13/2006 11:24:47 AM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: nickcarraway

If you lose it, you have to file a missing iPod report with the police within 24 hours. (just kidding)


52 posted on 02/13/2006 11:25:10 AM PST by good_ole_texas_boy
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To: nickcarraway

The RIAA can eat it.


53 posted on 02/13/2006 11:25:31 AM PST by mysterio
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To: hollywood

"The RIAA can wipe my butt."

I really, really hope you aren't planning to wait for them to do that....


54 posted on 02/13/2006 11:25:43 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: oceanview
I hope you are wrong (but fear you are right).

I'm waiting until some Senator gets his butt caught in this wringer.

55 posted on 02/13/2006 11:26:17 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: nickcarraway

From the article:

"... Recording Industry Ass. of America ..."

Need I say more?


56 posted on 02/13/2006 11:26:52 AM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: nickcarraway

The RIAA needs to go find some 12-year-old girl copying a CD for one of her friends and terrorize her. That's about all they're good for.


57 posted on 02/13/2006 11:27:15 AM PST by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: nickcarraway
Wipe your iPod before selling it, RIAA warns

Make sure to dampen the towel first and not directly apply cleaning solutions to your ipod.

58 posted on 02/13/2006 11:27:22 AM PST by eyedigress
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To: HamiltonJay

Do you REALLY believe that??


59 posted on 02/13/2006 11:27:33 AM PST by KeepUSfree (WOSD = fascism pure and simple.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

There was a similar argument going on twenty or so years ago, when Half Price Books and similar knock off stores started selling records, cassettes, and CDs. The industry was upset that second or third generation sales were going on and they weren't getting a piece of the pie. There was talk about outlawing the sale of anything other than brand new media.


60 posted on 02/13/2006 11:27:49 AM PST by Burkean
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