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To: T Ruth
An E85 hybrid makes about as much sense as a double quarter pounder with cheese and diet coke.

I'll bet E85 compatible just means that the fuel system materials won't be attacked by Ethanol, and the flow rate can be jacked up the the required 2X relative to gasoline. Ethanol has an Octane rating of about 113. An Ethanol optimized engine has a higher compression ratio and runs more timing advance than a gas engine. A production engine that must run on straight pump gas doesn't take advantage of these optimizing factors, and so energy in the Ethanol is wasted.

Then too, there is still a lively debate as to whether Ethanol is a net energy positive of negative. IMHO, the only plus to Ethanol is that one could produce the fuel themselves.

8 posted on 02/11/2006 8:43:55 PM PST by Jack of all Trades (Never underestimate the speed in which the thin veneer of civilization can be stripped away.)
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To: Jack of all Trades
An E85 hybrid makes about as much sense as a double quarter pounder with cheese and diet coke.

Double Quarter Pounder with Cheese: 730 calories
Large Coke: 310 calories
Large Diet Coke: 0 calories

So if you order a Diet Coke instead, you cut out 30% of the meal's calories. That seems to make quite a lot of sense.

13 posted on 02/11/2006 9:01:48 PM PST by SedVictaCatoni (<><)
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To: Jack of all Trades

"Produce the fuel themselves" = PRISON!

BATFE in no longer primarily know as the "revenuers", but the "A" still stands for "Alcohol"

They actually post on the ATFE web-site that it is illegal for school children to conduct a science experiment that might produce a tea-spoon of alcohol, unless they obtain a license from ATFE first!

Start making your own fuel and the real experiment will be to see if you go to jail on a variety of charges, or are simply killed first.


35 posted on 02/11/2006 10:02:57 PM PST by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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