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Ahhh Mexifornia, your sons and daughters can't pass the exam because none of them can speak English. Swirling the drain...
1 posted on 02/08/2006 2:47:19 PM PST by steel_resolve
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What a bunch of damned crybabies. No wonder the US educational system is falling behind others.


2 posted on 02/08/2006 2:49:00 PM PST by Mears (The Killer Queen-caviar and cigarettes.)
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To: steel_resolve

Vote for Pedro


3 posted on 02/08/2006 2:52:34 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (expell the fat arrogant carcasses of Congress)
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"How would you like to be tested in Armenian if you don't know Armenian?"

Well, I wouldn't expect to get an Armenian high school diploma without speaking the language.

4 posted on 02/08/2006 2:54:12 PM PST by KarlInOhio (During wartime, some whistles should not be blown. - Orson Scott Card)
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met all local requirements to graduate except passing both parts of the test - oh that rich, I meet all of the requirements to be a millionaire expect I ain't got no money
5 posted on 02/08/2006 2:55:54 PM PST by SF Republican
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To: steel_resolve

This is why the standard for Army training manuals had to be reduced in reading grade level to that equal to a comic book. The Army no longer produces technical manuals, they create illustrated comic books.


6 posted on 02/08/2006 2:57:02 PM PST by Ben Mugged ("Television is the most perfect democracy, You sit there with your remote control and vote")
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How dare they have exams in High School??


8 posted on 02/08/2006 2:57:36 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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***How would you like to be tested in Armenian if you don't know Armenian?"**

gee.. I guess I wouldn't.

Then again I wouldn't illegally sneak into Armenia, go to their schools for 13 years LIKE YOUR CLIENT admits, you a##hole, and then demand a diploma when I fail Armenian.

9 posted on 02/08/2006 3:00:35 PM PST by Condor51 (Better to fight for something than live for nothing - Gen. George S. Patton)
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I totally agree with California exit exams! Don't let them out of there to come to Texas if they can't pass a battery of tests (including confirmed voting record).


10 posted on 02/08/2006 3:00:36 PM PST by Iwo Jima ("An election is an advanced auction of stolen goods.")
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how dare the state demand proof that you actually learned something from the unionized schools!

It is your God given entitlement to get a diploma regardless of how little you actually learned or how many fake A's you got for just showing up to class.


11 posted on 02/08/2006 3:02:30 PM PST by conservative physics
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she ... has been unable to pass the English section. "I have been working really hard to go to college," Valenzuela

I don't see a problem here. She can still go to college.

14 posted on 02/08/2006 3:10:11 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Things turn out best, for who make the best of the way things turn out.--- Jack Buck (RIP))
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Liliana Valenzuela, a plaintiff and a senior at Richmond High School in the San Francisco Bay area, has a 3.84 grade-point average and is 12th in her class of 413, according to the lawsuit. She said she passed the math portion of the test on her first try but has been unable to pass the English section.

How can she be in the top 5 percent of the class but not pass a tenth-grade English test which requires only a 60 percent to pass? With a 3.84 GPA, I'm sure she got A's or B's in English every quarter.

"We'll have to find some way to teach everybody English, including those who just come into the country from another country," he said.

One way to learn English is by paying attention at school, not just mustering up a passable attendance record. There is absolutely no shortage of funds or programs for people that really want to learn English as a second language, or whatever it's called nowadays.

"Otherwise, it makes no sense. How would you like to be tested in Armenian if you don't know Armenian?"

If I had lived in Armenia for 13 years and had tried to graduate from an Armenian school, I wouldn't have any problem with it at all.
15 posted on 02/08/2006 3:12:41 PM PST by FoxInSocks
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"Many students in California have not been given a fair opportunity to learn the material on the exam," Gonzalez said. "These are good kids who have worked hard for 13 years to pass their courses."...

Liliana Valenzuela, a plaintiff and a senior at Richmond High School in the San Francisco Bay area, has a 3.84 grade-point average and is 12th in her class of 413, according to the lawsuit. She said she passed the math portion of the test on her first try but has been unable to pass the English section.


Is English a requirement in California ?
Strange things are hap-en-ning
16 posted on 02/08/2006 3:13:30 PM PST by stylin19a (God does not apply to your alloted time, the hours spent playing golf.)
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The local newspaper gave a sampling of the test in their paper - you would have to be and idiot with half a brain NOT to pass it. My sister, who had to take the test said they give it to you every year while your in high school and once you pass - don't have to take it again. A kid they interviewed in the paper said it wasn't "fair" to English as a second language students. Cry me a freak'n river!


20 posted on 02/08/2006 3:15:03 PM PST by TightyRighty
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To: steel_resolve

curiouser and curiouser


22 posted on 02/08/2006 3:24:46 PM PST by Supernatural (All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie! bob dylan)
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"We don' need no steenkeeng test."
25 posted on 02/08/2006 3:28:20 PM PST by Old Seadog (Inside every old person is a young person saying "WTF happened?".)
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He said if states want to test students in English, they'll have to do a better job teaching it.

"We'll have to find some way to teach everybody English, including those who just come into the country from another country,"

This is the most outrageous tripe. The taxpayer has no obligation to teach English to the children of immigrants.

The schools should not be blamed for their inability to cope with the overwhelming influx of Spanish-speaking students, many of them illiterate and semi-literate teenagers who need extensive remedial work in order to function at grade level. The taxpayers CANNOT and SHOULD NOT pay for their educational deficiencies. The attempt to do so is degrading and bankrupting our school system.

26 posted on 02/08/2006 3:39:54 PM PST by newsworthy (Culture is the engine of history.)
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When you think about it, all exams are discriminatory. They discriminate against dumb students, lazy students, students who didn't study...


32 posted on 02/08/2006 4:42:27 PM PST by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated--thanks to President Bush and his surveillance program.)
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Lead attorney Arturo Gonzalez said the lawsuit likely will expand to represent tens of thousands of students who have met all local requirements to graduate except passing both parts of the test.

Fine, so give them a diploma that says they spent 13 years in the school system and still can't pass the exit exam.

39 posted on 02/09/2006 11:05:40 AM PST by oldbrowser (We must act today in order to preserve tomorrow......R.R)
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Part of the problem is that these kids are getting passing grades, even good grades, and are still unable to pass the test.

Total break down of the system.


40 posted on 02/10/2006 6:30:52 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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