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LIVE THREAD: SJC hearing on the NSA surveilance program - C-span 1; 9:30 am EST

Posted on 02/06/2006 6:08:53 AM PST by ken5050

Good Monday morning, once again, fellow political jinkies. The NFL season may be over, but the political season inside the Beltway is 24/7/365. So join us, if you can, as those wacky Dems on the Senate Judiciary committee reprise their pitiful efforts to once again smear President Bush and score political points..


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; ag; albertogonzales; attorneygeneral; doj; dojprobe; gonzales; nsa; spying; ussenate
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Leahy rambling and I can't capture it all.


161 posted on 02/06/2006 6:58:51 AM PST by Peach (Islam is an army disguised as a religion (Freeper Hoosier-Daddy))
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To: Txsleuth

this one


http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Senators_considering_constitutional_amendment_to_limit_0205.html

Senators considering constitutional amendment to limit war powers


162 posted on 02/06/2006 6:59:16 AM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: TomGuy

[Mind wondering....whether we might be better off had Flt 93 taken out a few dozen radical lib lawmakers......mind wondering....]



hmmmmmmmmmmmm.......


163 posted on 02/06/2006 6:59:18 AM PST by mystery-ak (Army Wife.....toughest job in the military)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Lets all remember though...that THIS particular campaign "commerical" is being brought to us by SPECTER!!

He is the one who called for this hearing...


164 posted on 02/06/2006 6:59:45 AM PST by Txsleuth (l drink tea, not kool-aid.)
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To: Peach

The one thing he does keep saying is "illegal".

The Dems are doing the old "Big Lie" routine.


165 posted on 02/06/2006 6:59:50 AM PST by nuffsenuff (Don't get stuck on Stupid - General Russ Honore Sept 21, 2005)
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To: Peach

lol! no need to capture leahy's words. Flying lies scatter to the wind.


166 posted on 02/06/2006 6:59:50 AM PST by small voice in the wilderness (Hillary/Obama Nation '08. Let The Desolation Begin.)
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Here is the transcript of Gen. Hayden's interview on FoxNews Sunday. A "must read".

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,183844,00.html


167 posted on 02/06/2006 7:00:10 AM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Oh, Orca is there. His UGLY face was shown.


168 posted on 02/06/2006 7:00:13 AM PST by Lovergirl (Yes! It's true. I am a SnowFlake.)
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To: defconw
Look, if Arlen Sphincter had a spine, he would have ignored the request for hearings or would've had them in closed session, not this dog and pony show.

OTOH, the 'rats are going to give us juicy fodder for the elections in eight months. :) So something good will come out of it.

169 posted on 02/06/2006 7:00:18 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: ken5050
He told them to go and "pind and".

Is that Spanish or something? LOL. I hope he tells them more than that. I hope they get a royal earful. I don't think Gonzalez seems combative enough somehow.

170 posted on 02/06/2006 7:00:26 AM PST by JustaCowgirl (We're in this fight to win. These colors don't run. -- VP Cheney, 12/18/2005)
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To: small voice in the wilderness

Leahy threatening the AG and the POTUS!!!

YOU follow the law, or else.

Gosh..he even included Senators...but, isn't Kennedy sitting next to him???


171 posted on 02/06/2006 7:00:54 AM PST by Txsleuth (l drink tea, not kool-aid.)
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To: Bahbah
and babies and nuns not being able to fly.

If I recall .. it was the Dems that insisted on having the Unions take care of the screening process at the airports

172 posted on 02/06/2006 7:01:09 AM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: nuffsenuff

The Dems wanted to swear Gozales, I think they should swear the Senators - Leahy's monologue was full of lies.


173 posted on 02/06/2006 7:01:12 AM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Peach

The practice is NOT 'wire tapping'.......electronic surveillance, dummy, is different AND enemies intent upon killing you and us SHOULD be monitored.


174 posted on 02/06/2006 7:01:21 AM PST by Carolinamom (I don't believe in a government that protects us from ourselves. ---Ronald Reagan)
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To: Mo1; Peach; All

Wartime Power Play
By MASSIMO CALABRESI

As Capitol Hill prepares to battle the White House over George W. Bush's expanding war powers, moderate Senators on both sides of the aisle are quietly considering a range of options that would attempt at the very least to delineate the President's authority, if not roll it back. Bush's claims of wartime license are so great--the White House and Justice Department have argued that the Commander in Chief's pursuit of national security cannot be constrained by any laws passed by Congress, even when he is acting against U.S. citizens--that some Senators are considering a constitutional amendment to limit his powers.

In the public-opinion battle over domestic eavesdropping, Bush won the first round by arguing that he needed the unchecked power to learn "if there are people inside our country who are talking with al-Qaeda." With poll numbers split on the issue, spooked Senators hunkered down. But in recent days, Senate Democrats and the Judiciary Committee's Republican chairman, Arlen Specter, have fired off nine letters to the Justice Department and the White House demanding information on the domestic-spying program. At Senate hearings last week, the former head of the National Security Agency refused even in closed session to say how many phones had been tapped in the U.S. This reticence comes after conflicting public estimates from President Bush ("a few" U.S. phones) and his Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff ("thousands").

A source familiar with the nascent constitutional amendment says one version would make clear that any actions by the President as Commander in Chief that affect domestic policies or U.S. citizens are subject to the exclusive control of Congress. "Congress can't completely cede wartime power to the President," the source says. Talk of an amendment could end up as merely a lever in hearings. Then again, the first 10 amendments--better known as the Bill of Rights--were demanded by the states in part to curb the Constitution's broad presidential powers.


175 posted on 02/06/2006 7:01:41 AM PST by hipaatwo
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To: Bahbah

Gonzales up next....

Flying Nuns eh...I once worked for a Quaker...and he knew lots of cuss words....and could turn blue when angry!


176 posted on 02/06/2006 7:01:59 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Txsleuth

Yes, and I think the AG and the POTUS SHOULD follow the law. And give Rockefeller his choice, firing squad or electric chair.


177 posted on 02/06/2006 7:02:11 AM PST by small voice in the wilderness (Hillary/Obama Nation '08. Let The Desolation Begin.)
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To: JustaCowgirl
I don't think Gonzalez seems combative enough somehow.

I am very worried about this.

178 posted on 02/06/2006 7:02:14 AM PST by Bahbah (An admitted Snow Flake and a member of Sam's Club)
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To: FairOpinion

What a great idea


179 posted on 02/06/2006 7:02:16 AM PST by acsrp38
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To: SoFloFreeper
Yep that's why Specter is doing it, to shut the Dem's up and to allow them to make even bigger donkey's of themselves.
180 posted on 02/06/2006 7:03:01 AM PST by defconw (Bushbot,SnowFlake,Levinite, Dittohead,Hannitized and Sam's Club Member.)
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