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State Senator Wants To Cut Health Care For Smokers
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| 2/05/06
| cbs4denver
Posted on 02/05/2006 3:53:28 PM PST by dware
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To: dware
So are you saying that health care insurance is a right? Insurance companies discriminate all the time and it is perfectly legal.
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posted on
02/05/2006 6:08:11 PM PST
by
doc30
(Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
To: elkfersupper; The Foolkiller; Just another Joe; Madame Dufarge; Cantiloper; metesky; kattracks; ...
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posted on
02/05/2006 6:08:24 PM PST
by
SheLion
(Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
To: dware
I don't know about that. The anti-smoking nazis will argue that it can't be discrimination. After all, we CHOOSE to smoke.
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Are they going to do the same thing for those who drink and the diseases related to drinking? What about drugs? Coffee? What's next, forced diets? Idiots...
To: All
Read what Colorado smokers ALREADY pay into the state coffers! Colorado Information
Tobacco Taxes
Colorado's excise tax per pack of cigarettes: $0.200
Colorado's excise tax collection for the
fiscal year ending June 2002: $58,518,000
Sales tax on tobacco products: 2.90%
Federal excise tax per pack of cigarettes: $0.39
Total federal excise tax collections in fiscal year 2002: $7,512,700,000
Comparing Excise Taxes on Cigarettes, Beer and WineNumber of six-packs of beer that must be sold in Colorado to produce the same state excise tax revenue generated by one carton of cigarettes: 44.4
Number of bottles of wine that must be sold in Colorado to produce the same state excise tax revenue generated by one carton of cigarettes: 36.1
Colorado Smokers' Contributions to the State Economy - FY2002
In 2001, Colorado smokers comprised only 22.3%1 of the adult population in the state. Here is what they already pay because they choose to buy a legal product:
Smokers Pay Excise Taxes2 |
$ |
58,518,066 |
Smokers Pay Tobacco Settlement Payments3 |
$ |
97,988,866 |
|
$ |
156,506,932a |
And this dweeb Senator wants MORE????
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posted on
02/05/2006 6:21:42 PM PST
by
SheLion
(Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
To: FairOpinion
And I posted an article about NY monitoring the blood sugars of ALL people in NY, who get a blood test to measure their blood sugar. The labs send it directly to the government -- this is for EVERYONE, not just for those on Medicaid. New York City has something like 800K diabetics, so they decided to stomp on everyone's privacy to try and get a handle on it. I am surprised no one has challenged it.
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posted on
02/05/2006 6:29:24 PM PST
by
EVO X
To: dware
Sounds right to me.
And if a motorcyclist does not wear a helmet, his benefits should be reduced.
And the same if a motorist does not wear a safetybelt.
To: Black Birch
I am surprised no one has challenged it.The vast majority get their news by watching "Entertainment Tonight".
What else would you expect?
To: buckalfa
However, should our tax dollars be spent bailing out or healing those who take avoidable risks with their health?
Kind of a personal responsibility thing.
Employers are making such decisions, and have every right to do so. Why should not government do the same?Because most of us HAVE our own health insurance. You will NEVER have to pay for ME should I ever get sick from smoking!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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posted on
02/05/2006 6:33:17 PM PST
by
SheLion
(Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
To: festus
Can we drop coverage for gays who get aids ?And don't forget the health insurance we have to pay for ILLEGALS!! ack!
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posted on
02/05/2006 6:34:57 PM PST
by
SheLion
(Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
To: DumpsterDiver; Gabz
Good evening, ladies. Get a load of this article.Complete Bull Chit!
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posted on
02/05/2006 6:37:25 PM PST
by
SheLion
(Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
To: dware
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posted on
02/05/2006 6:42:17 PM PST
by
sausageseller
(Look out for the jackbooted spelling police. There! Everywhere!(revised cause the "man" accosted me!)
To: SheLion; inneroutlaw
Complete Bull Chit!One reason we just love you, She.
You're so.......reserved.
To: Conservativegreatgrandma
And those of us who smoke, pay larger premiums on our health insurance. I wanna shake your hand Conservativegrandma. You sound like one of my own kind. *~*
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posted on
02/05/2006 6:45:02 PM PST
by
Dawgreg
(Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
To: SheLion
What about queer illegals who smoke and eat fatty foods ?
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posted on
02/05/2006 7:10:49 PM PST
by
festus
(The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
To: Mr. Brightside
You know, you're right. I sure am glad we have the government to tell us what we have to do...
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posted on
02/05/2006 7:12:21 PM PST
by
dware
(3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
To: sixgunjer
I am not a smoker, don't care one bit for it, but it seems to me that unless you are hit by a car or murdered, you are likely to die from some disease, and incur the costs associated with it. Smokers may die earlier, but they don't incur any greater costs than someone who dies from non-smoking related cancer or heart disease, or cystic fibrosis, or MS, etc. etc.
Fact is, if smokers die earlier than others (and the jury is still out on that), much money is saved, especially in Social Security benefits. A decent argument could be made that smokers should receive greater, not lesser, benefits.
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posted on
02/05/2006 7:24:15 PM PST
by
NCLaw441
To: SheLion
Why aren't our legislators as concerned with legal immigrants coming in to this country, eligble to apply for a social security card within two weeks of their arrival, and then eligible to apply for "free" healthcare upon receipt of the social security card. They then use the card to pay for the birth of their new born children, whose health care the state (we the taxpayer) then pays for. Why aren't they concerned with all the newly arrived immigrants in this country eligible to receive medicare even though they didn't pay into social security, not to mention the cost of healthcare for illegals. What about the cost of the care of children born out of wedlock and their welfare mothers?
Also consider the cost of getting old in and staying alive in America.
Meanwhile, I haven't been to a doctor in seven years.
STOP THE INSANITY!!!!!!
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posted on
02/05/2006 7:25:00 PM PST
by
TAdams8591
(The first amendment does NOT protect vulgar and obscene speech.)
To: dware
Why should WE the taxpayers have to pay for other people's dangerous behavior?
To: doc30
I agree that insurance companies should be able to fairly assess risks and charge premiums accordingly. This, though, looks like state legislation, and not market forces at work.
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posted on
02/05/2006 7:29:08 PM PST
by
NCLaw441
To: dware
"Sen. Ron Teck, R-Grand Junction, wants to put people who continue to smoke despite the health risks on notice. Under a proposal set to be reviewed Wednesday at the state Capitol, people who started smoking before 1975 would still be eligible for Medicaid payments to treat smoking-related illnesses." But those who started after 1975 would see the amount the state picks up drop 5 percent every year after that. And those people who picked up the habit in 1996 or later wouldn't get any help."
Nice to give people FAIR WARNING.
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posted on
02/05/2006 7:36:26 PM PST
by
TAdams8591
(The first amendment does NOT protect vulgar and obscene speech.)
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