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Take that .30 Tok, pull the bullet, replace with a .30 saboted 52 gr. .224 bullet. Now ya got something interesting to play with.

Would that I could! Alas, the gun in question belongs to poster John Jorsett -- I royally ratf'd the attributions in my reply @235, and the first half of it is quoted materaial from JJ's post @222. (I caught it after I posted it, and tried to unfarkle it in post 242 back on Feb 4th) A classic "I hate when that happens" moment (argh and a half!)

I must have forgotten to put in the opening <i>, and/or the closing </i>. The result was that his material (quoted) and mine (in reply) blended together in what looked like something I'd written in its entirety. Feh!

Here's my sole contribution to that post (which you can check out by looking at my 235 and his 222):

I knew someone who had an A/D with one (dropped it, it went off), he was lucky -- the bullet went through his leg bone, into his knee, through his knee bone, out his leg, into a 4x4 stud, through the stud, and for all I know is still in low earth orbit. It's an amazingly powerfull "little" round.
It is not the gun to take bowling pin "hunting", though. I saw bowling pins that never even twitched when hit. The bullets went clean through them so fast that there was no visible movement to the pin whatsoever.
"Pocket Carbine" is not much of a stretch from what I've seen of them. I don't know about its value as a personal defense weapon, though, unless its incredible overpenetration could be tamed by expanding ammunition. (And if they do become popular, I'd expect to see them demonized (and probably outlawed) as "cop-killer" guns because of their ability to penetrate most soft body armor.)

Oh, for an <EDIT> button!

Now that I've got that cleared up <g>, I'll opine that I really would not mind having a Tokarev. I examined my friend's Norinco, and frankly I was impressed with it. Seemed very tight, solid, and well-built -- and, it went *bang* every time the trigger was pulled.

As to sabot loads, I'm of mixed opinion. I've never heard much positive about them in terms of accuracy (but then, pretty much all I've ever heard about them was in regards to the (Remington?) .30-'06-.223 commercial sabot loads.

If it turned out that such a load was accurate (and fed reliably) I imagine it'd be quite the impressive little "pocket varmint rifle". Probably be challenging to try and find a sufficiently powerful scope for it, with sufficiently long eye relief!

My finances are such that I can barely afford to keep a few boxes on hand for my 9mm and .45 (a PT99 and P14-45). I like both of them, and am fairly competent with either, but I wish I could afford to go out back more often to make toothpicks out of bowling pins. I know, I know, I should reload -- but that costs money too. (It's not that I'm a lazy SOB; my health is shot, and after a few years of "living" on the edge, it takes its toll, and things ("things" = stuff like "bills") tend to cascade, and before too long, luxuries (like a hobby that costs money each time you press a trigger) tend to become less important than other "luxuries" (like "light" and "heat").

Sorry, didn't mean to be a wet blanket. I'm sick like a dog at the moment, some kind of cold or flu that hit me like a ton of bricks the other day. Then I read about "my" Tokarev, and got to thinking "hey, don't I wish", and then got to thinking about how I can't even feed my existing toys a decent diet, and... well, there I go again! :)