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Why the .45 Matters
Strategy Page ^ | Feb 1, 2006

Posted on 02/01/2006 3:42:08 PM PST by John Jorsett

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To: FreedomPoster

Well, when I worked the streets as a cop, my philoshy was always head shots. Whenever I got a new partner, at the end of the shift we'd go to the range and shoot for beers.

During the silouete (?) phase, we'd have 35 secondes to get off ten rounds out of a wheel gun. I'd average 29 seconds and all in the head.

Using both hands making a fist and putting them together is the size of the head on that target. Cheap insurance to stay alive if you can hit them in the head on the first round.


121 posted on 02/01/2006 8:03:40 PM PST by stumpy
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To: Scribbz; dinok

I have a .40 (glock) and it kicks like a mule.

Went shooting w/ a friend and his .45 was smooth as silk.

SMACK!!! (Hitting forehead w/ palm) shoulda bought a .45!

10 posted on 02/01/2006 4:51:55 PM MST by Scribbz

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I shoot both a G23 and a G27 ; I find they recoil like a 9mm.

I shoot 180g JHP with little or no recoil.

Now my G30 .45 ACP shooting 230g JHP has more recoil but is very manageable.

.

Do you shoot with one hand or two hands?

If you shoot with two hands do you use a isosceles or point shoot?

Or do you shoot short or extended weaver grip?

Do you squeeze the trigger?

Perhaps taking an NRA basic pistol course from a Certified Instructor
would help you control the handgun.

122 posted on 02/01/2006 8:07:36 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Trust in YHvH forever, for the LORD, YHvH is the Rock eternal. (Isaiah 26:4))
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To: dinok

Those of us who are "Niners" just prefer shooting the bad guy multiple times!


123 posted on 02/01/2006 8:11:33 PM PST by MysticCrusader (Dead Dog Trick)
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To: John Jorsett

Bookmark.


124 posted on 02/01/2006 8:17:27 PM PST by OKSooner
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To: al baby

OUCH!!!!!!


125 posted on 02/01/2006 8:19:16 PM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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To: ExSoldier

Its a damn shame that US soldiers carry a weapon not even made in the USA. Its a Beretta if I'm not mistaken.

If (a big if) I were POTUS I'd order every Army and Marine ground pounder to carry a .45 ACP that was Made in the USA with ammo Made in the USA. Mandatory range practice at least twice a week, shooting at least 5 clips on the 7 yard range.

The Euro's can jump in a lake. We don't want to follow what the Euro's do, never. We're Americans and we can do anything better than a European can do.


126 posted on 02/01/2006 8:37:45 PM PST by DeaconNoGood
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To: Emmet Fitzhume

Beverly Hills Cop 3 gun.


127 posted on 02/01/2006 8:45:36 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Shooter 2.5

Who's arguing?

:^)


128 posted on 02/01/2006 8:49:32 PM PST by Disambiguator (Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: al baby

Where's her eye and ear and *cough* protection?


129 posted on 02/01/2006 8:56:30 PM PST by Disambiguator (Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: calex59
Hey nice shot! My daughter shoots a 243 with 100 grain Hornady in a Remington 660. She is a scary good shot.

The whole idea behind 5.56 was that the soldier could carry more ammo. In Nam I have read that there was something like 5 million rounds expended for every enemy confirmed KIA. Seems way high to me but I witnessed one fire fight where a company of Rangers expended well over 10,000 rounds and could not find any bodies (Charlie used to drag them off). In this case there wasn't even any blood trails.

I was hunting deer outside Winner, South Dakota last fall and popped a doe at well over 300 yards with my Sako 7mm Rem Mag. The wind was stronger than my estimate and I only hit her in the back of the left shoulder from the back. She limped off and I found her later behind a hay roll. The bullet had lodged under the shoulder blade. Perfectly expanded and stuck in the bone. My bad poor shot. But venison in the freezer.

130 posted on 02/01/2006 9:10:04 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: centurion316
lol Wish I had some! We were butt deep in Charlie.
131 posted on 02/01/2006 9:11:08 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Many guys in WW2 and Korea were in love with the 1911. My Uncle managed to sneak one back. It is a terrible piece of work. Standard mil issue and it still shoots very good for a 45. Amazing stuff.


132 posted on 02/01/2006 9:14:09 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: XeniaSt

My favorite. Replaced my G21 in that category.


133 posted on 02/01/2006 9:17:27 PM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: manglor

I would assume that isn't a working silencer? Quite a bit of legal hoops to jump thru for a real one...


134 posted on 02/01/2006 9:31:08 PM PST by Secret Agent Man
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To: DeaconNoGood
I don't have a problem with the weapon (Beretta) itself, my problem is with the caliber. Right now, the best 1911 design going is the Kimber IMHO. Yet that is not necessarily the best there is. BTW, the Beretta 8045 is a fine handgun and I would feel well armed carrying that gun. But if I had to choose one handgun that I had to take to war right out of the box and be sure of it's reliability under all conditions as well as it's accuracy....I'd go with the H&K USP "Tactical." It can also take a suppressor, which would be a nice accessory to have.

Shooting from a static position is a waste of time, IMHO. You always train like you fight. The best training scenarios with a 45 would be inside the live fire shoot houses such as found in the better shooting schools like Thunder Ranch or GunSite.

135 posted on 02/01/2006 9:45:51 PM PST by ExSoldier
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To: ExSoldier

114: right on!


136 posted on 02/01/2006 9:50:14 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: John Jorsett; Squantos; Eaker; ExSoldier; All
I'm surprised nobody jumped on this glaring error by the author:

"From this experience, the then standard army pistol, a .38 caliber (9.65mm) weapon, was replaced by a .45 caliber (11.4mm) one.

Who can tell us what the big boo-boo is in that sentence?

137 posted on 02/01/2006 9:52:57 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Secret Agent Man
I would assume that isn't a working silencer? Quite a bit of legal hoops to jump thru for a real one...

Not really. You pay a $200 tax, get a letter of recommendation from a Chief of Police and submit to a BATF (Bury All Thy Firearms) background check. Then you just buy the device itself. Same goes for a ClassIII full auto. Same fees, except the cost of the weapon will range much higher...maybe in excess of $3,000. Then the cost of the ammo is big $$$ since you might be going thru 9mm at the rate of about 30 rds ever two seconds.....

138 posted on 02/01/2006 9:54:19 PM PST by ExSoldier
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To: ExSoldier
H&K?

Are you tryin' to run up the deficit.

Our troops would do just fine with a "loose as a goose" grey steel .45 or if they wanted to pay for their own sidearm, let em' go with whatever trips their trigger, as long as its .45 caliber.

My $500 Colt .45 shoots true and straight and its very reliable. Surely it can once again be massed produced.

140 posted on 02/01/2006 10:25:29 PM PST by DeaconNoGood
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