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A court order for every wiretap? (Dems' campaign to justify NOT spying on terrorists intensifies)
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Saturday, January 28, 2006 | Les Kinsolving

Posted on 01/28/2006 12:31:26 AM PST by JohnHuang2

Suppose the National Security Agency receives a tip that one of the merchant ships anchored in New York Harbor contains three hydrogen bombs – and that the captain of this bomb ship is on the telephone with an Arab consulate arranging to evacuate himself and crew along with securing their transfer off the ship and onto a submarine. Continues...

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Democrats' campaign to justify not spying on terrorists intensifies

This month Iran broke the seals at its subterranean Natanz nuclear facility -- seals put there by the U.N. to freeze the process that can produce fuel for nukes; was recently caught red-handed possessing documents used solely to make nukes; rejected economic incentives offered by Europe to stop their enrichment program; broken one pledge after another. Reaction from U.S. Democrats? No outrage. Only one thing could get Democrats outraged about Iran: If they found out the Iranian government was "spying" on its citizens!

Had we been "eavesdropping" on the private conversations of "innocent" and "patriotic" al-Qaeda-Americans before 9/11, *9/11* would not have happened. Gen. Michael Hayden, the U.S.'s No. 2 intelligence official and former NSA head, told the National Press Club Monday that if a system to eavesdrop on conversations by people in dining rooms and living rooms in Kaboomistan and their U.S. operatives had been in place before 9/11, "it is my professional judgment that we would have detected some of the 9/11 al Qaeda operatives in the United States and we would have identified them as such."

In 2002, the NSA's "domestic spying" program intercepted lots of cellphone talk about the "Brooklyn Bridge." Ashcroft's 'jackbooted thugs' alerted the NYPD, which swarmed the bridge with security. An "innocent American" was then overheard via phone intercept complaining that the bridge was "too hot" to do the job. He's now serving a 20-year sentence. Attack on the Brooklyn Bridge prevented. 'Dissent' crushed again in BushCo's Amerikkka! Thus, no terrorist attack on U.S. soil since 9/11.

It's my judgment that's the real problem libbies have with the NSA's 'super-secret' program, the details of which oddly keep popping up on the front pages of the New York Times, the paper that hated the 'outing' of domestic spy, Valerie Plame.

If this brouhaha were really about civil liberties, liberals by now would have fled their homes in Malibu and Beverly Hills and moved to Cuba -- human rights paradise!

Let's take that arms-flailing robot that recently had its batteries recharged -- what's its name? Al Gore. Last week he accused Bush of erecting a flesh-crawling police state without the proper court papers. And of capturing American dirty bombers without arrest warrants. And of torturing captured terrorists by water-boarding, snarling dogs, etc. (There are even reports of detainees brutally forced to listen to Al Gore speeches.)

"Whenever power is unchecked and unaccountable it almost inevitably leads to mistakes and abuses," said Gore, speaking before a huge and boisterous crowd at Constitution Hall. Not since the Democrat National Convention did one see a gathering of these many fascists under one roof.

Gore sounds so much like Osama these days, I thought it was Osama's latest taped message.

Gore noted that "in the absence of rigorous accountability, incompetence flourishes. Dishonesty is encouraged and rewarded." Having served in the most ethical administration in history, Gore speaks as an expert here.

That other doofus, Sen. John Kerry, on Sunday called the NSA effort 'spying' in a manner reminiscent of Genghis-Nixon and a clear "violation of law," unlike when Clinton did it -- Echelon -- to crack Demi Moore's phone number. But it was legal back then. Constitution was secretly amended minutes before Bush became President. Check it out -- it's the Amendment right after Roe v. Wade.

Kerry pledged to keep funding the 'spying' because "we're prepared to eavesdrop wherever and whenever necessary in order to make America safer." But! We need to "protect the constitutional protections of Americans." Listen in on bin Laden's calls to Mohammad Atta or get blown to smithereens by hijacked planes. Yeah, it's a terrible dilemma we face.

And they say Bush is trapped in a 'bubble' and Democrats are so 'on top of things.' If Democrats weren't so on top of things, I guess they'd know Bush had briefed them about his "illegal wiretapping" years before they read it in the papers. And that DOJ had OK'd it. And that every 45 days the program gets reviewed. Bush -- he's such a Nixon.

But would Dems be cool with "domestic spying" on terror suspects provided Bush gets the proper court papers? Of course they wouldn't. Last week, the ACLU -- the Al-Qaeda Civil Liberties Union -- sued the Bush administration for 'violating' First and Fourth amendment freedoms. "Journalists" joined the suit. I'm so glad there's no liberal media!

Like Gore, Kerry, Reid, Pelosi et al., the ACLU says it's the lack of court papers and approval they don't like. Bush's an EVIL, TYRANNICAL, DESPOTIC DICTATOR, but get a court to approve, and things'll be cool. And we know libbies always respect and revere court decisions -- like Bush v. Gore.

The ACLU's chances of winning are slim to none and the reason for that is known in legal parlance as: Lack of evidence. The nuts at ACLU can't produce a single case where any "innocent American" had his or her rights violated under the NSA program. Case dismissed.

Anyway, that's...
My Two Cents...
"JohnHuang2"



TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: homelandsecurity; nsa; spying

1 posted on 01/28/2006 12:31:27 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: xm177e2; mercy; Wait4Truth; hole_n_one; GretchenEE; Clinton's a rapist; buffyt; ladyinred; Angel; ..

Have a great weekend, y'all.


2 posted on 01/28/2006 12:31:53 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2

Excellent. Nailed.


3 posted on 01/28/2006 3:13:15 AM PST by Peach
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To: AmeriBrit

Bookmarked for morning.


4 posted on 01/28/2006 3:26:14 AM PST by AmeriBrit (The 'hildabeast' must be stopped. RELEASE THE COMPLETE BARRETT REPORT.....NOW!)
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To: JohnHuang2
...unlike when Clinton did it -- Echelon -- to crack Demi Moore's phone number.

Very funny and accurate.

How is that one President can totally sabotage the defense of this country by selling military secrets to communists, ignoring terrorists, and forbidding agencies from sharing information and no one in Washington can or does anything about it, while another President cannot have an uncooked kernel in a rice pilaf dish at Gitmo without ten employees at every federal agency stepping over each other to be the first to hand over a classified document to the MSM?

5 posted on 01/28/2006 3:43:01 AM PST by Dahoser (Time to condense the nonsense: Terry Tate for Congressional Linebacker.)
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To: JohnHuang2
In 2002, the NSA's "domestic spying" program intercepted lots of cellphone talk about the "Brooklyn Bridge." Ashcroft's 'jackbooted thugs' alerted the NYPD, which swarmed the bridge with security. An "innocent American" was then overheard via phone intercept complaining that the bridge was "too hot" to do the job. He's now serving a 20-year sentence. Attack on the Brooklyn Bridge prevented. 'Dissent' crushed again in BushCo's Amerikkka! Thus, no terrorist attack on U.S. soil since 9/11.

"... the NSA wiretaps do not break the law. The president's inherent power as commander in chief allows them..."

This is ultimately the correct answer about the president protecting the nation.

Congress authorized this military action....that makes the President's authority even more clear. The Constitution puts all intent to injure the US in the President's area.

As Commander-in-Chief the President is responsible for and the designated leader for countering ANY enemy activity.

Enemy activity....enemy activity....

This is simple stuff to any veteran. If your brigade has responsibility for enemy activity in Sector 5, then the brigade commander must deal with ANY enemy iniative, defense, liaison, logistic, etc.

If that Brigade Commander knowingly ignored any enemy activity, he would be legally derelict. If that Brigade Commander were required to get permission to deal with potentially time-sensitive enemy activity, then he would be seriously hamstrung in controlling his sector.

That notion...that all decisions on any matter must come from the top down....is the rule in most despotic armies in the world, and is one of the major reasons why the US military runs rings around them. Our military recognizes that commanders must have the freedom and flexibility to use initiative, mobiliy, and surprise.

This obviously is also true of the Commander in Chief if it is true of a simple brigade commander.

This nation now has far too many citizens who have no military experience. Unfortunately, this is also true of the US Congress.

6 posted on 01/28/2006 4:18:12 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: JohnHuang2

Spot on, as usual, John. Great scathing summary...


7 posted on 01/28/2006 7:24:40 AM PST by eureka! (Hey Lefties and 'Rats: Over 3 more years of W. Hehehehe....)
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To: JohnHuang2
[Queue Guinness commercial]: "BRILLIANT!"

Have a great weekend my FRiend.

5.56mm

8 posted on 01/28/2006 7:36:29 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: JohnHuang2

Good stuff, carry on.


9 posted on 01/28/2006 8:15:31 AM PST by Brasil
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To: JohnHuang2

Spying ~ Bump!


10 posted on 01/28/2006 11:34:09 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: JohnHuang2

I keep getting the sense that the dems just want the President to defer to them .. to the point Bush has to ASK PERMISSION to do his job. It's all about power - and the dems are not doing themselves any favors by trying to ursurp presidential authority given to Bush by the Constitution.

The public has already caught on. If they try to use the NSA issue - it's going to backfire - BIG TIME.


11 posted on 01/28/2006 12:38:02 PM PST by CyberAnt ( I believe Congressman Curt Weldon re Able Danger)
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To: JohnHuang2

Thank you so much for the excellent wrap-up!!!


12 posted on 01/28/2006 9:05:07 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: JohnHuang2

Thanks for the ping, JH2. Your analysis is right on the money, as usual.

I would only take issue with your "Gore sounds so much like Osama these days, I thought it was Osama's latest taped message."

I believe Osama is one up on Gore. Osama follows a sickening set of religious "tenents" and is fanactical in his beliefs, but Al Gore is a literal mental case. I can't even watch him speak anymore. It's like watching someone in a mental ward standing on a soapbox and trying to attract attention from anyone who's willing to look at him and listen to him. The thought that he came close to being President gets more disturbing every day.


13 posted on 01/29/2006 12:44:36 PM PST by Minuteman23
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Wanted to let you know that the new Homeland Security Bill has passed. Things will be different now and Internet surfing will be tracked by what the FBI calls a "non-intrusive method." The FBI says you will not notice anything different.

For a demonstration, click on the link below...

Homeland Security : http://users.chartertn.net/tonytemplin/FBI_eyes/


14 posted on 01/29/2006 6:42:51 PM PST by Quietus (snopes.com)
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