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Russian Slat Armor
StrategyPage ^ | January 24, 2006

Posted on 01/24/2006 7:18:06 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4

When the Stryker entered service in Iraq with it’s slat armor “cage” (to protect against RPGs), there was some criticism, and some crude humor, directed at that particular rig. But the slat armor did the job, and now Russia is offering it’s similar BTR-80 vehicle, equipped with slat armor. While the United States abandoned wheeled armored vehicles after World War II, Russia kept theirs, and constantly improved their BTR series. While not as heavy, or as high tech, as the American Stryker, the BTR vehicles are popular with many nations, especially for use by police and paramilitary forces. The current export model of the BTR-80, the BTR-90, is equipped with a turret and a 30mm auto-cannon and weighs about 16 tons. The BTR-80, introduced about twenty years ago, is actually more similar to the U.S. Marine Corps LAV, which entered service about the same time.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: armor; bronyetransporter; btr; btr80; miltech; stryker; strykerarmor; stynker; wheeledarmor; wheelies
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To: plustaticman

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61 posted on 02/03/2006 6:08:27 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
"Why do we want to do the Russians any favors while putting friendly Canadians and patriotic Alabamans out of work?"

As an Alabamian, I can tell you that if it saves U.S. lives, buy it...from here, from there, wherever. Our economy here in Alabama will be just fine. Take care of our troops, first.

Now, with that said; slat armor is just metal. Steel-workers in Canada, Russia, Alabama, Japan, China, wherever...can all make it competitively. The price difference is *not* large. On days when the U.S. Dollar drops, Alabama steel is often the world's cheapest, in fact.

62 posted on 02/03/2006 6:23:37 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: archy
"The Russians have also experimented with water-filled tubes mounted alongside their vehicles, also handily providing a means for carrying additional water for the troops inside and for engine cooling. The Swedes used the same idea..."

Carrying the water outside, rather than inside, makes sense. Likewise, it makes sense to use two inert liquids in place of your diesel. Carry the inert liquids in tanks that are located just inside the main side/rear armor, such that your "fuel" tanks add extra armor protection at no weight cost.

Mix the two inert liquids together just prior to injecting into the engine/turbine to make your actual propulsion fuel (i.e. a binary gasoline).

Binary fuels are common in high explosives...each "fuel" being entirely stable on its own...but once mixed, powerful.

You can do the self-same thing for diesel. Once you've converted to a binary fuel system, you can use your fuel tanks as additional armor (placed just inside your existing armor to provide small arms protection for your source of propulsion).

63 posted on 02/03/2006 6:32:25 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack; A. Pole; archy
I took A. Pole to mean replace the Stryker vehicle with the BTR-80. Would you rather see the US Army get vehicles from Nizhny Novgorod instead of Alabama?
64 posted on 02/03/2006 6:54:31 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
"I took A. Pole to mean replace the Stryker vehicle with the BTR-80. Would you rather see the US Army get vehicles from Nizhny Novgorod instead of Alabama?"

No, but I want our troops protected, first. Do what it takes for initial protection; we'll deal with replacement vehicles if we must!

65 posted on 02/03/2006 6:59:09 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
I took A. Pole to mean replace the Stryker vehicle with the BTR-80.

I meant replacement of Hummers with improvised armor. I do not know much about Strykers. Why aren't they used more?

66 posted on 02/03/2006 7:01:38 PM PST by A. Pole (Ukrainian proverb: "Iak buly moskali, buv khlib na stoli, a iak bude Ukraina, bude bida po kolina")
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To: x5452

No... to heavy.

And for the guys talking about who invented it, while the idea did see some use in Vietnam, the first use of a "catching" device to prevent the RPG (or similar round) from making contact with the armor of the vehicle was the Israelis. They used 1/2" link chain.

I could be wrong, but this is what we were told.


67 posted on 02/04/2006 12:05:54 AM PST by plustaticman
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