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To: Thatcherite; TheBrotherhood
//quivering puppy//Thatchy thats a good one heh heh.

You guys certainly have some bizarre definitions of things, for one what constitutes a liar.

Lady Hope could have visited Darwin and not have been remembered by his family for the time or times she was there. So TheBrotherhood raising this possibility does not make him a liar no matter how many some of the nutballs on your side scream it out, and no matter how many atheist evo web sites they link up too.

Also Darwin could well have made his recantation to Lady hope and only to Lady Hope.

No one here was there then, and in fact his family may not have been present for all interactions Darwin himself made.

Wolf
626 posted on 01/25/2006 1:30:23 PM PST by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: RunningWolf
So TheBrotherhood raising this possibility does not make him a liar no matter how many some of the nutballs on your side scream it out, and no matter how many atheist evo web sites they link up too.

He didn't raise it as a possibility, he raised it as a historical fact. That would mean he had evidence that it did happen, not that there's a time window in which it could have.

Roosevelt could have secretly visited Hitler during the War. You can't prove it's not true. That doesn't make it a historical fact.

630 posted on 01/25/2006 1:41:12 PM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: RunningWolf

>Also Darwin could well have made his recantation to Lady hope and only to Lady Hope.

Exactly, RunningWolf.

It's a known fact that Lady Hope visited Darwin several times during a 4-5 day stretch. Darwin could have made his recantation at any hour during those days w/o a member of his family present. Moreover, a recantation and conversion is usually made to another person of the Faith and at a moment when only the two were alone. I've also theorized that it is not unusual for a man who is about to die to repent and to do so at a moment of deep spiritual awakening. It is often at this hour that men often repent and are gifted with that which is unseen.


633 posted on 01/25/2006 1:46:17 PM PST by TheBrotherhood
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To: RunningWolf
You guys certainly have some bizarre definitions of things, for one what constitutes a liar.

Someone who declares that something is a historical fact when in fact it rests on a vague unsupported assertion by someone who had every interest in making such stories up. Someone who keeps changing his story. Someone who repeatedly misrepresents links that he posts, purporting that they say the opposite of what they conclude. Someone who claims to have presented numerous links to substantiations rather than the just one that he has actually linked to (and even that one was at best ambivalent about the story). Behaviour like that is considered lying in honest circles. Maybe not where you come from though.

Lady Hope could have visited Darwin and not have been remembered by his family for the time or times she was there. So TheBrotherhood raising this possibility does not make him a liar no matter how many some of the nutballs on your side scream it out, and no matter how many atheist evo web sites they link up too.

What about the numerous Christian websites, including the arch-creationist site AiG, which also say that the story is almost certainly false?

Also Darwin could well have made his recantation to Lady hope and only to Lady Hope.

Yeah, right. He knew that his wife, who he loved deeply, was desparate for him to recant, but he just told some evangelical stranger, and no-one else, 6 months before he died, when he wasn't even yet ill. If you believe that I've got a Swiss bank account that you can send all your money to. I'll *guarantee* in return that you get to heaven, and send you London Bridge by return of post.

642 posted on 01/25/2006 2:22:07 PM PST by Thatcherite (More abrasive blackguard than SeaLion or ModernMan)
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