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To: Right Wing Professor

From the Descent of Man-- I quote--

"The careless, squalid, unaspiring Irishman
multiplies like rabbits: the frugal, foreseeing, self-respecting,
ambitious Scot, stern in his morality, spiritual in his faith,
sagacious and disciplined in his intelligence, passes his best years
in struggle and in celibacy, marries late, and leaves few behind
him. Given a land originally peopled by a thousand Saxons and a
thousand Celts- and in a dozen generations five-sixths of the
population would be Celts, but five-sixths of the property, of the
power, of the intellect, would belong to the one-sixth of Saxons
that remained. In the eternal 'struggle for existence,' it would be
the inferior and less favoured race that had prevailed- and
prevailed by virtue not of its good qualities but of its faults."


(You have to give an old man time to look things up- friend. I read quite a bit, and have a million quotes in my head) ha Takes time to footnote


389 posted on 01/24/2006 10:15:37 AM PST by warpcorebreach
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To: warpcorebreach

That doesn't say the Irish are closer to apes. What it says is the Irish are less careful and therefore more fecund and therefore have more descendants. Darwin, not being an imbecile, would know that the Scots and Irish share the same lineage - the word Scot, as a matter of fact, actually means Irish - and therefore one could not be closer to apes than the other.


392 posted on 01/24/2006 10:19:06 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: warpcorebreach
I've been freepmailing back and forth with a buddy and we agree that you're simply too dumb to be Lambert Dolphin.

I propose a test. With your consent up front, I'll email Dolphin and if you're who you claim you can email me back and say, "Yes, I'm 'warpcorebreach' on FreeRepublic."

How does that sound?

394 posted on 01/24/2006 10:26:20 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: warpcorebreach
Quote mine alert!

Source: The descent of man, Chapter V (the bogus out-of-context "quote" is in blue):

A most important obstacle in civilised countries to an increase in the number of men of a superior class has been strongly insisted on by Mr. Greg and Mr. Galton,19 namely, the fact that the very poor and reckless, who are often degraded by vice, almost invariably marry early, whilst the careful and frugal, who are generally otherwise virtuous, marry late in life, so that they may be able to support themselves and their children in comfort. Those who marry early produce within a given period not only a greater number of generations, but, as shewn by Dr. Duncan,20 they produce many more children. The children, moreover, that are borne by mothers during the prime of life are heavier and larger, and therefore probably more vigorous, than those born at other periods. Thus the reckless, degraded, and often vicious members of society, tend to increase at a quicker rate than the provident and generally virtuous members. Or as Mr. Greg puts the case: "The careless, squalid, unaspiring Irishman multiplies like rabbits: the frugal, foreseeing, self-respecting, ambitious Scot, stern in his morality, spiritual in his faith, sagacious and disciplined in his intelligence, passes his best years in struggle and in celibacy, marries late, and leaves few behind him. Given a land originally peopled by a thousand Saxons and a thousand Celts—and in a dozen generations five-sixths of the population would be Celts, but five-sixths of the property, of the power, of the intellect, would belong to the one-sixth of Saxons that remained. In the eternal 'struggle for existence,' it would be the inferior and less favoured race that prevailed—and prevailed by virtue not of its good qualities but of its faults."

396 posted on 01/24/2006 10:34:20 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: warpcorebreach; Right Wing Professor
Takes time to footnote

And yet, in post 377, you cut and pasted Jerry Bergman's work without attribution. (nor mentioning ol' Jerry's letter to the newsletter of David Duke's National Association of the Advancement of White People.)

Moreover, the quote regarding the Irish and Scots you posted wasn't even Darwin's writing. If you had looked at The Descent of Man, instead of cutting and pasting from "Answers in Genesis" or whatever site you cribbed the text from, you would have clearly seen that Darwin clearly identified the portion you reproduced as a quote from a Mr. Greg. "Or as Mr. Greg puts the case: 'The careless, squalid, unaspiring...'"

Even further, as Right Wing Professor pointed out, the quote does not state, as you originally claimed, that, "Darwin wrote that blacks were very closely related to their ape ancestors, but there was a group that was even closer- the Irish. And the group that was the most highly evolved-- the Scot." Nothing that you quoted, whether from "Dr." Bergman or Mr. Greg, makes the point you attribute to Darwin.

405 posted on 01/24/2006 10:46:00 AM PST by WildHorseCrash
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To: warpcorebreach
That overreaching warpcorebreach
Could get away with all sins.
But he tripped up,
That silly pup,
In simulating dolphins.
776 posted on 02/02/2006 8:43:27 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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