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To: warpcorebreach; Right Wing Professor
Takes time to footnote

And yet, in post 377, you cut and pasted Jerry Bergman's work without attribution. (nor mentioning ol' Jerry's letter to the newsletter of David Duke's National Association of the Advancement of White People.)

Moreover, the quote regarding the Irish and Scots you posted wasn't even Darwin's writing. If you had looked at The Descent of Man, instead of cutting and pasting from "Answers in Genesis" or whatever site you cribbed the text from, you would have clearly seen that Darwin clearly identified the portion you reproduced as a quote from a Mr. Greg. "Or as Mr. Greg puts the case: 'The careless, squalid, unaspiring...'"

Even further, as Right Wing Professor pointed out, the quote does not state, as you originally claimed, that, "Darwin wrote that blacks were very closely related to their ape ancestors, but there was a group that was even closer- the Irish. And the group that was the most highly evolved-- the Scot." Nothing that you quoted, whether from "Dr." Bergman or Mr. Greg, makes the point you attribute to Darwin.

405 posted on 01/24/2006 10:46:00 AM PST by WildHorseCrash
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To: WildHorseCrash; Right Wing Professor; PatrickHenry
Our resident plagiarist and quoteminer probably had the following in mind when he tried to put words in Darwin's mouth:

Darwin cites Galton and quotes Greg, being particularly taken with Greg's 1868 Fraser's "On the Failure of 'Natural Selection' in the Case of Man" (Darwin, 1989, pp. 138-39). He was particularly struck by Greg's characterization of the Irish: "The careless, squalid, unaspiring Irishman, fed on potatoes, living in a pig-stye, doting on a superstition, multiply like rabbits or ephemera; and the frugal, foreseeing self-respecting, ambitious Scot, stern in his morality, spiritual in his faith, sagacious and disciplined in his intelligence, passes his best years in struggle and in celibacy, marries late, and leaves few behind him." Darwin (1989, p. 143) quoting Greg (1866, pp. 360-61). [emphasis added]

The more interesting point is that Darwin, after quoting Greg, goes on to refute the point that Greg was making (to which Greg's opinion of the relative status of Irish vs. Scot is not at all material): that the "least fit" people will tend to dominate the human population over time. Darwin refutes that argument in a straightforward manner. IOW, Darwin, rather than embracing the arguments put forth by Eugenics ninnies, rejected them, with evidence.

409 posted on 01/24/2006 11:30:09 AM PST by longshadow (FReeper #405, entering his ninth year of ignoring nitwits, nutcases, and recycled newbies)
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