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1 posted on 01/21/2006 11:13:48 PM PST by CHUCKfromCAL
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How can anyone who thinks that clearly be a lib? I don't get it...


2 posted on 01/21/2006 11:22:09 PM PST by 302damnfast
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To: PJ-Comix

"alternative universe"

Sound familiar?


3 posted on 01/21/2006 11:22:33 PM PST by NapkinUser ("Our troops have become the enemy." -Representative John P. Murtha, modern day Benedict Arnold.)
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Mr. Gerstein is a former communications director for Democratic Sen. Joe Lieberman.


4 posted on 01/21/2006 11:23:11 PM PST by adamsjas
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"Don't tell me a filibuster isn't warranted when 56% of this nation says Alito SHOULD be blocked if he'll overturn Roe"

And yet only 18% of Americans believe he will. God, how stupid can these people be?


5 posted on 01/21/2006 11:25:51 PM PST by NapkinUser ("Our troops have become the enemy." -Representative John P. Murtha, modern day Benedict Arnold.)
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To: CHUCKfromCAL
This episode shows we don't have any leader in power who will tell our base that we're not going to become a majority party again by telling the majority they're out of the mainstream.

Even within the Democrat Party there is one person who understands what's going on. There's no need to boot him out, nobody listens to him.

6 posted on 01/21/2006 11:34:44 PM PST by DeFault User
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The Dummie Funnies exposes this mania..No one listens to sanity like this author's on DU..I don't want to give Kos hits so I don't read it.


7 posted on 01/21/2006 11:43:28 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: CHUCKfromCAL
You nearly believe this guy Gerstein gets it, until you read further. Gerstein describes the democrats angy grandstanding at the Alito hearings as "absurd insinuations". Yet in the end reveals his own absurdity with this comment, "...we must develop an alternative affirmative agenda that shows we can keep the country safer, make the economy stronger, and govern straighter than the ethically challenged Republicans".
8 posted on 01/21/2006 11:47:41 PM PST by vivabushchick ("Tour Free Iraq, courtesy USA Armed Forces ")
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To: CHUCKfromCAL
"We're angry, we spit fire..."


9 posted on 01/22/2006 12:10:27 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (The Democratic Party-Jackass symbol, jackass leaders, jackass supporters.)
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To: CHUCKfromCAL
"...much of our party is living in a parallel universe."

If this is news to Gerstein, he must have returned from the parallel universe in a transient moment of lucidity.

11 posted on 01/22/2006 2:51:30 AM PST by Savage Beast (Women are like wine. You get what you pay for. Mine's the best. It's expensive. It's worth it.)
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It's just a matter of time...how long before the children of the Left, desperately aching for structure in their private lives and acceptance in their public lives, begin to convert to Islam as "the only way find peace and justice," or some sort of similar delusional claptrap? Worshipping Mother Gaia won't get it for them, because there is no self-discipline there. They hunger for someone who will promise them all the answers, if only they will do what they're told. They WANT to drink the cool-aid...


14 posted on 01/22/2006 5:53:55 AM PST by Clioman
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It's not so much that we're living in a parallel universe, but that we have dueling conceptions of what's mainstream, especially on abortion and other values-based issues, and our side is losing. We think that if we simply call someone conservative, anti-choice and anti-civil rights, that's enough to scare people to our side. But that tired dogma won't hunt in today's electorate, which is far more independent-thinking and complex in its views on values than our side presumes.

This is a message that needs to be conveyed to the FReepers who regularly post here that defending traditional values is a losing strategy. In fact, it is THE strategy that accounts for the GOP's current success.

16 posted on 01/22/2006 7:02:18 AM PST by madprof98
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A few months back Donna Brazille wrote about how hard it was to convince her family members that her party was for something other than just killing babies.

Appointing Dean spokesman was a mistake. He was chosen for his fund-raising abilities. The expected funding hasn't materialized and he's become a liability. The Ohio vote in 2004 was emblematic of how the Dims have lost their way. They hired people to bug potential voters. The Republicans organized voluteers to approach fellow parishioners, friends, etc. The Dems spent all that money and lost.

They would be better served to reexamine their prolonged slide and address the real problem - their guiding principles have been sold away wherever they collided with a power center. Their one "success" since 1980 was Bill Clinton. He forced them to repudiate one principle after another:

That leaves abortion as the last bastion, their Alamo. To chase the "women's vote", they sided with some extraordinarily repugnant spokewomen. The country, including women, is split on abortion. But then Democrats embrace people like the NARAL Nazis. They opposed a bill that says a baby born alive is a human being with full rights. That's extreme to 90+% of us.

Is "embrace" too strong a word? Let's remember the spectacle of NOW and NARAL lecturing the 2004 Democrat presidential candidates on what they were to do if a pro-life judge were nominated. Not one of them stood up to them. None said there are other points of view on the issue. None said their votes are their own to decide. They appeared to be wholly owned by this very extreme special interest group. Tort reform is similar. Lots of us see the legal system as badly broken but any attempt to reign in the excesses is opposed because they're beholden to lawyers for their campaign contributions.

Underlying all that is the problem that an amalgamation of grievances is not a set of principles. People who want civil rights to ensure racial equality really don't see gay marriage as analogous. In fact, it turns them off. Many Democrats, like Toby Keith, vigorously support our military. Many think the United States is a force for good in the world. They don't view our principles as equivalent to Nazism which killed tens of millions or Communism which killed over a hundred million. But for them to embrace the modern Democrat party means yukking it up with Dean and worse. They have to hear how the United States is evil and our military are a bunch of baby-killers. I'd stay home or "defect" to the Republican party too.

17 posted on 01/22/2006 7:59:52 AM PST by Dilbert56
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To: CHUCKfromCAL
This article actually was written by a Rat, lamenting that the wacky Rat base is not allowing reality to be part of the party's political approach. Lots of nuggets here, e.g. ---

And that's the heart of the problem with our party and its angry activist base. It's not so much that we're living in a parallel universe, but that we have dueling conceptions of what's mainstream, especially on abortion and other values-based issues, and our side is losing.

We think that if we simply call someone conservative, anti-choice and anti-civil rights, that's enough to scare people to our side. But that tired dogma won't hunt in today's electorate, which is far more independent-thinking and complex in its views on values than our side presumes.

19 posted on 01/22/2006 8:47:15 AM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: CHUCKfromCAL
More good advice from the author that the moonbats will reject thoroughly and immediately---

This episode [the Alito confirmation] shows we don't have any leader in power who will tell our base that we're not going to become a majority party again by telling the majority they're out of the mainstream. We do badly need leaders with courage--the courage, that is, to push our party (to borrow a phrase) to move on, to accept that we can't win with the same lame ideological arguments in post-9/11 America

20 posted on 01/22/2006 8:49:32 AM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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