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Concealed Weapons Bill Before Legislature.(Kansas)
Topeka Capital Journal ^
| 01-21-2006
| Carl Manning (AP)
Posted on 01/21/2006 6:36:08 AM PST by heckler
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posted on
01/21/2006 6:36:10 AM PST
by
heckler
To: heckler
Eight hour training? What a ridiculous joke.
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posted on
01/21/2006 6:38:28 AM PST
by
mvpel
(Michael Pelletier)
To: heckler
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posted on
01/21/2006 6:38:33 AM PST
by
heckler
(wiskey for my men, beer for my horses, rifles for sister sarah)
To: heckler; Joe Brower
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posted on
01/21/2006 6:40:08 AM PST
by
Smokin' Joe
(How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
To: heckler
"only to be spiked by then-Gov. Bill Graves, who said it would result in more injuries and deaths from accidental shootings."Backed up by what statistic? Offset by how many avoided injuries and deaths by carrying concealed?
To: robertpaulsen
You would think that if they would just take 2 minutes to look at the statisitics from other states nation wide that have inacted CC, these idiots would stop using such asinine unsupported claims.
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posted on
01/21/2006 7:06:59 AM PST
by
Bob Mc
To: mvpel
I'm not sure what you mean by that. Is it not enough that constitutionally-guaranteed rights are subject to the whims of state legislatures requiring any kind of permit?
To: mvpel
Eight hour training? What a ridiculous joke. Of states that require training, that's pretty typical. In Texas at least, the training focuses not on shooting, but on the law. When it's appropriate to use deadly force, the legal hazards of carrying (for instance a simple trespass could be "enhanced" because you were armed), and so forth. Part, maybe 1 1/2 or so, is devoted to the shooting test, but the requirements to pass that are not very stringent, everyone in my class, including the older couple who had never fired semi-automatics before but who chose to use rental Glocks for the test, passed. (It's not that they hadn't shot, they were just revolver people, but if you test with a semi-auto, you can carry either type).
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posted on
01/21/2006 7:15:17 AM PST
by
El Gato
(The Second Amendment is the Reset Button of the U.S. Constitution)
To: robertpaulsen
Backed up by what statistic? Feelings, nothing more than feelings. Most likely anyway, since AFAIK, that hasn't happened in any of the other 46 states that allow some form of concealed carry, including the 35 "shall issue" states or Vermont which doesn't require a permit at all. (Alaska also does not require a permit, but still issues one, so that Alaskans can carry in states which recognize it's permit.)
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posted on
01/21/2006 7:20:13 AM PST
by
El Gato
(The Second Amendment is the Reset Button of the U.S. Constitution)
To: heckler
It won't pass anyway. Sebelius will veto it and the legislature will not override.
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posted on
01/21/2006 7:25:11 AM PST
by
Crazieman
(6-23-2005, Establishment of the United Socialist States of America)
To: Crazieman
Crazieman
You may be right but I think that we still need to give it a shot, but it'll take some serious effort on the part of folks from districts of legislators who voted against it. The only way it passes is if we can over-ride a veto. Some RHINO minds will have to be changed.
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posted on
01/21/2006 7:32:53 AM PST
by
heckler
(wiskey for my men, beer for my horses, rifles for sister sarah)
To: El Gato; mvpel
re: eight hours of training
As far as I know, the average police academy graduate gets not much more than 40-50 hours (that's hours, NOT credit-hours) training in gun handling and what the law says about when you may shoot
The downside of training requirements is that some jurisdictions have used that to make it difficult to get a license, by scheduling classes infrequently and with long waiting lists
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posted on
01/21/2006 7:48:47 AM PST
by
SauronOfMordor
(A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
To: heckler
Kansas bump from an NRA Life Member.
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posted on
01/21/2006 7:52:32 AM PST
by
FReethesheeples
(Was the Narcissistic Joe Wilson a Source in "Outing" His Own Wife Valerie Plame as a "CIA Agent"?)
To: Bob Mc
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posted on
01/21/2006 8:17:19 AM PST
by
JOE43270
(JOE43270, God Bless America and All Who Have and Will Defend Her.)
To: heckler
The CCW movement has by now swept the nation, and in the future, Illinois will be the only backwards holdout state. Next thing to push for is nationwide recropricity as in drivers licenses.
Ass-backwards demoncrap ruled Illinois will be bound by the US Constitution:
Article IV.
Section 1
Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records,
and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general
Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be
proved, and the Effect thereof.
Section 2
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities
of Citizens in the several States.
To: mvpel
"Eight hour training? What a ridiculous joke." Agree---there should be no training requirement.
To: Bob Mc; heckler
> You would think that if they would just take
> 2 minutes to look at the statisitics ...
History? Real-world consequences? Actual results?
This gubner is a democrat, which means her
priorities are appearances, emotion and symbolism.
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posted on
01/21/2006 8:41:02 AM PST
by
Boundless
(So who are the KS reps/sens on the edge?)
To: heckler
"This is a cure without an illness." No, it is the right to bear arms, you dolt.
I certainly hope the KS GOP can come up with a viable candidate this time around. Sebeeli-ass needs to go.
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posted on
01/21/2006 9:43:52 AM PST
by
teenyelliott
(Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
To: Bob Mc
"You would think that if they would just take 2 minutes to look at the statisitics from other states nation wide that have inacted CC, these idiots would stop using such asinine unsupported claims."
When intelligent persons encounter contradictions in their claims, they check their premises.
When DIMs do same, they ignore them!
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posted on
01/21/2006 9:48:34 AM PST
by
Panzerlied
("We shall never surrender!")
To: FReethesheeples
"Kansas bump from an NRA Life Member."
And a Michigan member. Just got my pin, certificate and other stuff today!
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posted on
01/21/2006 9:51:16 AM PST
by
Panzerlied
("We shall never surrender!")
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