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Posted on 01/20/2006 2:50:00 PM PST by oxcart
The United States is called United for a reason. The South did violate the Constitution by seceeding; I don't care if they had popular votes in those states or not. Up until the late 1850's the majority of Southerners considered secession to be illegal, which was why no ohter Southern states supported South Carolina during the Nullification Crisis.
Some diehard unreconstructed rebels are just plain unrealistic. The South didn't have the economic means to win the war and got no foreign recognition. I know the Brits gave some aid, but they did so more out of their own self-interest than any real support for the Confederacy (they'd outlawed slavery in 1833). The South's economy was based on slavery; it would have collapsed eventually regardless of what the North might have done. As for the Lincoln bashers, I think any President would have done what Lincoln did to prevent the country from splitting apart.
Culturally we ARE two different countries. The Conservative Christian South........and the atheist socialist north. I took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America. How about yourself?
What about your father and brothers?
Take a look at the last electoral map. You socialist blue-zone gun-grabbing abortionists voted overwhelmingly for a dishonorably discharged traitor and you've got the balls to call Southerners "unpatriotic"? Don't make me laugh.
This article is simplistic pap. It sounds as if a high-schooler trying to impress his leftie teacher wrote it. Late in joining the Revolution? Has this dolt never heard of the Halifax Resolves, the Mecklenburg Declaration of Independence or the Regulator War? Backward? As far as the War Between the States is concerned, there were very good reasons to ponder secession. Despite all the rhetoric, there was no monolithic pro-slavery sentiment in the south in general, and in North Carolina in particular. I'm residing in a county that voted against secession; many others did so as well, particularly in the mountain counties. Becoming surrounded on all sides by states that had seceded sealed the decision. Once in, they gave their all.
And, this author purports to write some sweeping history of an entire state, apparently without leaving the posh confines of his converted loft in Brightleaf Square. Has he never heard of textiles before?
I could go on and on, I suppose. But, this kind of whitewash happens all the time. This one is a little less snide than most, so it could be worse.
I think some of the Founders would have disagreed. What was the Declaration of Independence and Revolutionary War if not a secessionist document and movement?
Its not like the United States will last forever anyway. And that's not an endorsement of dissolution or secession, but rather a statement of what history likely portends.
LBJ's Civil Rights Act has very little to do with the resugence of the GOP in the south. Southern people are generally conservative and are increasingly fed up with the disgusting perversion that the Democrat party has turned into.
I think it's too simplistic to say that red and blue means north and south. Look beyond the cities (or at the red vs. blue election map from 2004) and you'll see that most of the country in the North votes and thinks Red just like the South. Look at West Virginia, for instance-we're represented by Robert KKK Byrd, but we overwhelmingly went for Bush both times.
People who keep fighting over something that ended more than a hundred years ago are little better than people who want reperations for slavery. Robert E. Lee, a man of enormous integrity and honor, would have been the first person to tell today's unreconstructed rebels to get over themselves and move on.
Sure you do:
What you seem to be forgetting about the U.S. Flag Lauralee is how many of those stars and in particular, how many of those 13 stripes represent the South.
"I think it's too simplistic to say that red and blue means north and south."
Not altogether simplistic, on the state level. The nature of the electoral college creates a greater distinction than actually exists, and for good reason; this provides further validation of national election results, and reduces squabbles and disputes, such as we've seen in the last two presidential elections. Imagine if there were no electoral college and we had such a close election ... we'd have challenges across the entire country, where ever there was some chance of overturning a result. Absolute mayhem.
But, truthfully, the red/blue divide is largely a split between urbanites and suburban/rural voters.
And the North got the Johnson presidency, the Carter presidency, and the Clinton presidency. Haven't you gotten even yet?
I don't think his charges are about Texas politics. I read his book, he puts together a pretty convincing picture of a desperate LBJ who was about to be thrown off the ticket for '64. Johnson faced new questions over Bobby Baker, the Senate was reopening its investigation, which was killed after JFK was too.
Johnson was looking at the federal pen. He was backed into a political and legal corner, his only way out was to become president himself. The only way he could do that was to kill Kennedy. I think he did.
Northeasterners sure have a demented view of Southerners.
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
I will gladly trade you brand new dollar bills, dollar for dollar for your Confederate dollars.
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