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Mormon connection to Masons explored ahead of 'Da Vinci Code' sequel
Salt Lake City Tribune ^ | 1/13/06 | Peggy Fletcher Stack

Posted on 01/20/2006 10:28:11 AM PST by TFFKAMM

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To: A CA Guy

There are idiots everywhere. Some of them advocate intelligent design as science as well.


21 posted on 01/20/2006 10:57:05 AM PST by jess35
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To: TFFKAMM
Mormon connection to Masons explored...

There is a connection.

I am a Mormon and my mom used Mason jars to can the produce from our garden.

22 posted on 01/20/2006 10:59:51 AM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: BritExPatInFla; A CA Guy
The Da Vinci Code = A cult of HUMANISM

I AGREE that it is, that it's the product of those engaged in the cult of HUMANISM...

No, The Da Vinci Code = A Work Of Fiction Passed Off As Nothing More.

Fiction isn't, afterall, also a product of humanism, just not in the same tense of HUMANISM the false religiosity that is otherwise paganism. On the other hand, THE DA VINCI CODE postulates ("fiction") as to alter, counter theology using names, themes, concepts from Judao-Christianity. This is one case where fiction is a pretense, given that what's fiction to some of us is also profanity. I think the writers understand their paganism, by the way, which implies an intention to mislead.

Fiction as genre does not excuse nor provide special permission to engage in false doctrine -- a pretense to represent that which is not represented -- at least without some clear denouncement of consequences by whatever special permission is assumed. I've heard the two authors involved with THE DA VINCI CODE speak and from what they readily and eagerly admit, they're involved in "religious" perceptions, one of them pretty much describes accuarately what I would describe as "channeling" which is a satanic practice denounced by the Bible.

23 posted on 01/20/2006 11:06:19 AM PST by MillerCreek
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To: sully777
Remembering the Mountain Meadows Massacre

Why is this always being brought up?

The guy that did that was arrested by a Mormaon Sheriff, Appeared before a Mormon Judge and Jury. Was convicted by the Mormon Jury, and went to prison. What more could you ask?

The Extermination Order, which called for the extermination of all Mormons in Missouri, issued by Governor Boggs, who was the Governor of Missouri, and who was killed in this massacre, was repealed only about 10 years ago.

Nobody was ever prosecuted for all the Mormons killed in Missouri, and Illinois.

We haven't ask that they be, they all have been dead for a hundred years.

Get over it.

24 posted on 01/20/2006 11:09:19 AM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: Dan(9698)

Good heavens.
I have a personal connection too.
I have mason jars in my basement.

What is to be done?


25 posted on 01/20/2006 11:15:13 AM PST by JRochelle
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To: jess35

That's exactly what I would expect them to say!


26 posted on 01/20/2006 11:15:26 AM PST by SalukiLawyer
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To: MillerCreek

The people talking about it like a real part of religious history are practicing humanism.

Happens to be there are some taking this foolishness seriously.


27 posted on 01/20/2006 11:17:52 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Vaquero
I listened to it on CD, and was not impressed. There were just too many contradictions and falsehoods for my rational world view to overcome.

Then, the ending... all of the intrigue, money, time and energy spent... all over ... nothing? If I hadn't needed a story to keep me alert during a thousand mile drive, I wouldn't have listened past the first chapter. I would never have bothered to actually read it.
28 posted on 01/20/2006 11:18:03 AM PST by marktwain
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To: JRochelle
What is to be done?

Having a connection is OK if you are willing to acknowledge it, and disclose it.

29 posted on 01/20/2006 11:18:58 AM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: Adam-ondi-Ahman; Religion Mod; Utah Girl
Let the Mormon bashing begin! (I'm LDS, and know how things work here at FR).

you obviously werent here for the mormon wars some years back on FR - there was a period where nothing mormon could be mentioned - be it an apologist, or someone critical. A good many people got banned - some nice - some rude....It is largely neutral now - so please leave your victimhood as a persecuted tribe of Levi at the door

Ive pinged the relig mod so he can address your concern of continued persecution and a fellow LDS'er who can also attest to this

30 posted on 01/20/2006 11:19:23 AM PST by Revelation 911 (God is love, Love endures forever, Love God, Love your neighbor, Vengeance is mine)
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To: Dan(9698)

I will disclose all.
I am not a Mormon.
I am not a Mason.

I have a kooky uncle who thinks that Freemasons secretly rule this country. And he has mason jars too!


31 posted on 01/20/2006 11:21:10 AM PST by JRochelle
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To: TFFKAMM
...... that has spawned an industry of de-coders eager to separate fact from fiction.....

The woman with three names is pretty much ignorant. The industry in question was existent for at least a decade before the De Vinci code was written.
32 posted on 01/20/2006 11:22:37 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: jess35

I don't keep the novel on my person, but I know its there. You can look it up for yourself, and if you consider the Catholic Church a bunch of nuts, then we'll just pencil you in as better than the rest of us Christians. We're a bit uptight about something he tries very hard to represent as fact which just happens to pull into question the very center of the Christian faith. He asks us to take these assertions of history as fact, and he draws conclusions that have no such basis.

He may be going straight to the bank, but according to the tenets of my religion, he is leading people away from God, and that's certainly his decision. I personally believe our decisions sometimes have consequences that we aren't completely aware of at the time we make those decisions.

I think the addition of that prefacing leaf asserting that the matters of history were factual might be one of them. I'll let you know when I'm dead.

From my point of view, he's an idiot.


33 posted on 01/20/2006 11:26:36 AM PST by RinaseaofDs (If stupidity were painful, liberals would be extinct)
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To: Adam-ondi-Ahman; caver
Image hosted by Photobucket.com damn Mormon Masons anyway... a twofer!!! 8^)
34 posted on 01/20/2006 11:27:49 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Chode; Adam-ondi-Ahman

Hah, I never thought of that. This thread could get interesting.


35 posted on 01/20/2006 11:31:59 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: Adam-ondi-Ahman

If you are interested in facts, no bashing, check out http://www.mazeministry.com/


37 posted on 01/20/2006 11:38:33 AM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: Dan(9698)

"I am a Mormon and my mom used Mason jars to can the produce from our garden."

There you have it, then. My mom used them, too. She wasn't a Mormon, but it's clear she was subverted by them.

Seriously, the Mason jar connection has about as much truth in it as the other nonsense, which is absolutely none.


38 posted on 01/20/2006 11:43:26 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: TFFKAMM

Ever read "Holy Blood, Holy Grail"?


39 posted on 01/20/2006 11:44:02 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: TFFKAMM
I hear those Masons are a real 'crafty' bunch.

;>

40 posted on 01/20/2006 11:46:32 AM PST by Eastbound
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