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To: shempy
If as you said, Just an understanding that the willful taking of innocent human life is murder. then why doesn't everyone believe that. There are folks who claim to be conservative but are ok with abortion because they say the "fetus"/baby in the womb isn't human yet. How do you know the invitro baby is human? There are so many "experts" saying it isn't, even in the third trimester.

I don't see that the thread limited the discussion to the Republican platform. Conservatives aren't exclusively Republican. Why shouldn't homosexuals and short middle aged blonde women have special rights? Why is one person's opinion more valuable than anothers?

Why is stealing immoral? You said It just requires the ability to use reason and logic.. If a thief believes that if he want something he ought to be able to have it. His "logic" is the justification for what he does. Why is another person's opinion more valuable or correct than that of the thief?

Logic is different things to different people. There have been several murderers who killed because it was sexually gratifying for them. That was their logic. Who are we to tell them it's wrong?Again, what makes one person's opinion more valuable than anothers?

I won't find out tomorrow that there is no God. I just talked with Him this morning and He isn't planning on going anywhere.

189 posted on 01/19/2006 7:27:05 AM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping List Freepmail me if you want on or off this ping list.)
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To: tutstar
If as you said, Just an understanding that the willful taking of innocent human life is murder. then why doesn't everyone believe that.

For the same reason that not all Christians believe that. Not all Christians are pro-life.

I don't see that the thread limited the discussion to the Republican platform. Conservatives aren't exclusively Republican.

True, and unfortunately, Republican's aren't exclusively conservative. I don't think being a conservative requires belief in sin. I am a conservative and I don't believe in "sin", at least not in the religious sense of "a transgression against God's will."

Why is stealing immoral? You said It just requires the ability to use reason and logic.. If a thief believes that if he want something he ought to be able to have it. His "logic" is the justification for what he does. Why is another person's opinion more valuable or correct than that of the thief?

Words have meaning. The meaning of logic is "the art of non-contradiction". If logic were just whatever each individual wanted to call logic, the term would be wholly without meaning. It is true that a person can extrapolate from a faulty premise using the rules of logic, however, the result will not be logical because the premise is false. Just as a brick is a sturdy building material, not all buildings that use bricks are sturdy. If the foundation and first five floors are made of pine, the bricks add nothing except weight and danger.

I won't find out tomorrow that there is no God. I just talked with Him this morning and He isn't planning on going anywhere.

Did he actually tell you that? Wow. You see, that is why I don't believe in god. I have never been confronted with that sort of extraordinary evidence to support the extraordinary claim. If there really is a god I would love to get to know him, and I mean this sincerely. I just can't pretend to believe or force myself to believe in god. If I could force myself to I probably would. I wouldn't be so heartbroken at the death of a friend. I could make more sense out of the senseless. But I just can't. To me, god is nothing more than Santa Claus for adults. A mythical figure used by society to inspire moral behavior amongst the masses. I believe that morality does not require religion, it simply requires logic.

But either way, I don't have a beef with religious folks. My wife is religious, my kids are baptized, and most of my employees are religious. Religion has been one of my greatest interests for most of my life. I have spent a ton of time searching for god. I haven't found him, but I bear no ill will to those who believe they have found him.

210 posted on 01/19/2006 8:07:24 AM PST by shempy (EABOF)
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