For the same reason that not all Christians believe that. Not all Christians are pro-life.
I don't see that the thread limited the discussion to the Republican platform. Conservatives aren't exclusively Republican.
True, and unfortunately, Republican's aren't exclusively conservative. I don't think being a conservative requires belief in sin. I am a conservative and I don't believe in "sin", at least not in the religious sense of "a transgression against God's will."
Why is stealing immoral? You said It just requires the ability to use reason and logic.. If a thief believes that if he want something he ought to be able to have it. His "logic" is the justification for what he does. Why is another person's opinion more valuable or correct than that of the thief?
Words have meaning. The meaning of logic is "the art of non-contradiction". If logic were just whatever each individual wanted to call logic, the term would be wholly without meaning. It is true that a person can extrapolate from a faulty premise using the rules of logic, however, the result will not be logical because the premise is false. Just as a brick is a sturdy building material, not all buildings that use bricks are sturdy. If the foundation and first five floors are made of pine, the bricks add nothing except weight and danger.
I won't find out tomorrow that there is no God. I just talked with Him this morning and He isn't planning on going anywhere.
Did he actually tell you that? Wow. You see, that is why I don't believe in god. I have never been confronted with that sort of extraordinary evidence to support the extraordinary claim. If there really is a god I would love to get to know him, and I mean this sincerely. I just can't pretend to believe or force myself to believe in god. If I could force myself to I probably would. I wouldn't be so heartbroken at the death of a friend. I could make more sense out of the senseless. But I just can't. To me, god is nothing more than Santa Claus for adults. A mythical figure used by society to inspire moral behavior amongst the masses. I believe that morality does not require religion, it simply requires logic.
But either way, I don't have a beef with religious folks. My wife is religious, my kids are baptized, and most of my employees are religious. Religion has been one of my greatest interests for most of my life. I have spent a ton of time searching for god. I haven't found him, but I bear no ill will to those who believe they have found him.
Of course it will be logical. The word you are looking for is "true". It will not be truth. Truth exists apart from logic and reason.
Logic is just the rules, it isn't reason itself.
If I can take something that belongs to someone else, and I can get away with it, why shouldn't I take it? I don't see how that would be illogical. I want the thing, it could improve MY life, why shouldn't I just take it?
Along those lines, if I had the power, why shouldn't I suppress speech or take guns? I think it would be irrational NOT to take away guns if you're in power and want to stay there.
What is logical about morality?
You see, that is why I don't believe in god. I have never been confronted with that sort of extraordinary evidence to support the extraordinary claim.
You're right in that it is a most extraordinary claim. There is none other like it. I would be happy to do my best to show you the extraordinary evidence if you would like. :)
If there really is a god I would love to get to know him, and I mean this sincerely.
Good, that puts you ahead of most.
I just can't pretend to believe or force myself to believe in god. If I could force myself to I probably would.
Please do not even try. :) It doesn't work like that at all. God doesn't drag His children, He loves them and brings them along willingly. Also, please do not worry in the slightest that you have done something wrong in that you do not believe "what you are supposed to believe". This is not the case. God will touch you first.
I wouldn't be so heartbroken at the death of a friend. I could make more sense out of the senseless.
Absolutely true, and a thousand other benefits you may not have even thought of yet. :)
But I just can't.
You're right! I couldn't either, but God can!
To me, god is nothing more than Santa Claus for adults. A mythical figure used by society to inspire moral behavior amongst the masses. I believe that morality does not require religion, it simply requires logic.
You are not alone. Many feel this way. At the very least, I can can show you why Christians believe as we do.
But either way, I don't have a beef with religious folks. My wife is religious, my kids are baptized, and most of my employees are religious. Religion has been one of my greatest interests for most of my life. I have spent a ton of time searching for god. I haven't found him, but I bear no ill will to those who believe they have found him.
You sound like you have a very open mind. You already have all the tools you need. If you like, I can try to show you some things about God you may not have thought of before. Please feel free to ask any question that comes to mind. There is no blasphemy from an honest seeker! :) You may ask something I don't know the answer to off the top of my head, but I will pledge to get you the answer. In this way my own faith will also grow, so we both win!. May God bless you in your search - Forest.