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To: CarolinaGuitarman
Atheism is ONLY the conviction that something does not exist. Science doesn't say this.

Atheism does not express itself in a single form. I am not saying science is atheism, but atheistic to the extent it excludes God from its purview. The statement "God is beyond the purview of science" is specifically atheistic in regard to science. Not only does it mention "God" in particular, but it excludes God in particular. So to that extent, science is atheistic, not "agnostic as you wishfully assert. A good many science textbooks bear this out, not to mention those who deliberately and pointedly insist that science must be atheistic to be scientific.

228 posted on 01/19/2006 3:56:27 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
" Atheism does not express itself in a single form."

There is the accepted definition, and then there is the Fester definition. The accepted definition is that atheism is the conviction that God doesn't exist. Your definition is whatever you want it to be, so you can call science atheistic.

"Not only does it mention "God" in particular, but it excludes God in particular."

No, it excludes ALL untestable, unobservable subjects in general.

"So to that extent, science is atheistic, not "agnostic as you wishfully assert."

Only to the extent you change the definition of atheism.
230 posted on 01/19/2006 4:03:07 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Atheism does not express itself in a single form.

No, atheists express themselves in multiple forms. Atheism has a specific meaning. You wish to conflate atheism, agnosticism and secularism into one. That is stupid. Atheism says no god or gods exist. The other two don't.

304 posted on 01/20/2006 5:17:44 AM PST by WildHorseCrash
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