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To: MHalblaub

Once Airbus builds a product that fills a "Certain Market Niche" the state run Airlines within Europe will buy it. The A380 is a good example. A stillbirth because it does not fit into the trend (Hub and Spoke is not the trend and that’s what the A380 was designed for) this plane is built and BOUGHT by who?

Lufthansa, British, Air France… and what other airlines have ordered this plane? Please tell us who the FEW are outside of the COINCIDENTAL Airbus consortium member states that have bought this massive jetliner? Ahhhhh yes, all just a big coincidence again!

Once Airbus offers a long range jet equivalent to a 747SP what do they buy? Ahhhh yes the A340……..

BTW- guess who owns the FRAPORT and will gladly pay for Terminal modifications, hangars etc? Ahhhhh-yes the FRAPORT who is owned by who?

Within Europe you have private Airlines and Boeing sells even TODAY IN THOSE MARKET NICHES (i.e. Ryan Air and the 737). Some privates buy Airbus and that's just how competition is. Even in the US Airbus sells well and had users such as United. But the State run airlines within Europe favor a certain manufacturer. There is a TREND. To state otherwise can only be supported with polemics, taking statistics out of context of time and markets or airframes that the manufacturers offer. The state run airlines within Europe buy what the state built aircraft builder builds.

Airbus was birthed by the state, it is managed by the state, it is given preferential treatment by the state when it comes to purchases.

Red6


21 posted on 01/18/2006 10:27:13 AM PST by Red6
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To: Red6
"this plane is built and BOUGHT by who"

Air France China Southern Emirates Etihad Fedex ILFC
kingfisher Airlines Korean Air Lufthansa Malaysia Airlines Qantas Qatar Airways Singapore Airlines Thai UPS Virgin Atlantic

The production of the A380 was sold (until the year 2010) before a single plane was build. I guess Airbus really has no problems with the present situation of the A380 program.

"BTW- guess who owns the FRAPORT and will gladly pay for Terminal modifications, hangars etc? Ahhhhh-yes the FRAPORT who is owned by who? "

Airports around the world built new terminals for the 380. The same was true for the 747 in the past. frankfurt is the second biggest airport in europe and simply is a natural place for the A380. By the way Frankfurt could even be much bigger if the environmental maniacs would end their protests or the US army left earlier their base.

"State run airlines within Europe favor a certain manufacturer"

If you look at the numbers Airbus has problems in the US and Boeing has problems in europe. Additional to that is japan a closed market for Airbus because of the unique japanese system and the strong ties to Boeing. The aviation system has always bee anything but a normal market.
But the real markets are india, china and the rest of asia at the moment. The state owned companies in india prefer oeing while airbus is doing more than well with the private companies.

"Airbus was birthed by the state, it is managed by the state, it is given preferential treatment by the state when it comes to purchases2

it is always the same. The boeing guys say airbus has advantages because of state support an the Airbus guys say this is not true because boeing gets more subsidies.
In the end both are right and both do not really need these things. let the WTO rule and i am not sure if Boeing will be happy with the result because the 787 gets a lot of direct subsidies from the japanese government but also from italy while Airbus only gets loans which were paid back every time until today. the civil aviation business has always been a very political business. That´s why often politicians announce the contracts from Bush to Tony Blair or Chirac.
25 posted on 01/19/2006 3:48:55 AM PST by stefan10
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