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LIVE THREAD: GORE TV ( speech on live - C-span 1; noon) be prepared to be afraid, very afraid.....)
one man's opinion....

Posted on 01/16/2006 8:15:35 AM PST by ken5050

He's BAAAAACK! Yup, Prince Alberta, newly relocated to the liberal mecca of San Francisco ensconsed in his new multi-million $$ condo, working in the venture capital field (all bad things when he was running for the WH) will today crawl out from under his rock to deliver himself of a major address about the "evils of executive power"


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: algore; atr; gore; goretv; grovernorquist; liberalmedia; norquist
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To: eeevil conservative

Will you ping me to the 24 thread this time?


821 posted on 01/16/2006 2:32:57 PM PST by AliVeritas (DNC - The longer the nose, the more we expose. No Costco, it's Sam's Club for me.)
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To: AliVeritas

SURE!

Did you watch last night???


822 posted on 01/16/2006 3:00:57 PM PST by eeevil conservative (courage is living in tyranny and speaking for freedom/not living in freedom and speaking for tyranny)
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To: ken5050


823 posted on 01/16/2006 3:02:28 PM PST by Harrius Magnus (Joseph P. Kennedy thought that involuntarily lobotomizing a 23-year-old was good parenting technique)
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To: ken5050



824 posted on 01/16/2006 3:02:29 PM PST by Main Street (Stuck in traffic)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
"I am worried that this group is setting up for a large third party to ensure Hitlery is the next POTUS."

A "large third party" with Gore at the head of the ticket takes a minimum -10% straight off the top of Hillary's numbers.

Not only that, but it ensures Gore with Fed matching funds for 2012, thus ensuring the final demise of the Donkey party. A Gore third party (or on the Green ticket) is a GOP dream scenario.

825 posted on 01/16/2006 3:36:12 PM PST by StAnDeliver
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To: ken5050
All the ranting about increasing Executive Power and invasions of privacy ignore the facts cited by Michael Barone in an "Insight" column recently, as excerpted below:

Warrantless surveillance on terror suspects not new or illegal

Commentary by Michael Barone

The New York Times' Christmas gift—sorry, holiday gift—to the nation's political dialogue was its Dec. 16 story reporting that the National Security Agency has been intercepting telephone conversations between terrorism suspects abroad and U.S. citizens or legal residents in the United States.

What the Times didn't bother telling its readers is that this practice is far from new and is entirely legal. Instead, the unspoken subtext of the story was that this was likely an illegal and certainly a very scary invasion of Americans' rights.

Let's put the issue very simply. The president has the power as commander in chief under the Constitution to intercept and monitor the communications of America's enemies. Indeed, it would be a very weird interpretation of the Constitution to say that the commander in chief could order U.S. forces to kill America's enemies but not to wiretap—or, more likely these days, electronically intercept—their communications. Presidents have asserted and exercised this power repeatedly and consistently over the last quarter-century.

To be sure, federal courts have ruled that the Fourth Amendment's bar of “unreasonable” searches and seizures limits the president's power to intercept communications without obtaining a warrant. But that doesn't apply to foreign intercepts, as the Supreme Court made clear in a 1972 case, writing, “The instant case requires no judgment on the scope of the president's surveillance power with respect to the activities of foreign powers, within or without this country.” The federal courts of appeals for the 5th, 3rd, 9th and 4th Circuits, in cases decided in 1970, 1974, 1977 and 1980, took the same view. In 2002, the special federal court superintending the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act wrote, “The Truong court, as did all the other courts to have decided the issue, held that the president did have inherent authority to conduct warrantless searches to obtain foreign intelligence information. ... We take for granted that the president does have that authority and, assuming that is so, FISA could not encroach on the president's constitutional power.”

Warrantless intercepts of the communications of foreign powers were undertaken as long ago as 1979, by the Carter administration. In 1994, Bill Clinton's deputy attorney general, Jamie Gorelick, testified to Congress, “The Department of Justice believes, and the case law supports, that the president has inherent authority to conduct warrantless physical searches for foreign intelligence purposes.”

In the Dec. 15 Chicago Tribune, John Schmidt, associate attorney general in the Clinton administration, laid it out cold: “President Bush's post-Sept. 11, 2001, authorization to the National Security Agency to carry out electronic surveillance into private phone calls and e-mails is consistent with court decisions and with the positions of the Justice Department under prior presidents.”

826 posted on 01/16/2006 5:27:04 PM PST by loveliberty2
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To: Howlin
OMG, listen to this: he's saying that the information was never used. Am I wrong, or is the reason it was never 'used' because of JAMIE GORELICK??? On HIS WATCH????

Don't interrupt Dims with the facts when they're on a roll.

827 posted on 01/16/2006 5:28:51 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (A Liberal: One who demands half of your pie because he didn't bake one.)
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To: harpu
This bum is going on for 7,049 meaningless words! Can you belive it!?!

It took Biden twelve minutes last week to ask soon-to-be Associate Justice Alito one question. Excessive bombasticity seems to be a symptom of the mental disorder called Liberalism.

828 posted on 01/16/2006 5:33:38 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (A Liberal: One who demands half of your pie because he didn't bake one.)
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To: DCPatriot
In summary:

Bush bad.
Democrats good.
Fire bad.
Food good.

Signed: Al Gore, the LOSER of 2000

829 posted on 01/16/2006 5:39:40 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (A Liberal: One who demands half of your pie because he didn't bake one.)
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To: jimbo123
Nice of Gore pay tribute to his racist father on MLK day...

Roger that.

830 posted on 01/16/2006 5:40:44 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (A Liberal: One who demands half of your pie because he didn't bake one.)
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To: Carolinamom
Rockefellar did NOT mail that letter to Cheney. He put it in his own safe for possible later CYA purpose.

What a bunch of hooey! They must think the public possesses the worldliness of a seven year old. Well, that probably applies to 30%.

831 posted on 01/16/2006 5:43:41 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (A Liberal: One who demands half of your pie because he didn't bake one.)
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To: ken5050

I'm a conservative who follows you guys and gals here at times. I ain't no Gore fan, but this spying shit has got to go. Barr and Gore are doing the right thing. Shame on you "conservatives" who say otherwise. Your willingness to sell our freedoms for protection will lead to the loss of our republic. That's bad, man. It's not right. I think I will get my news elsewhere from now on if this is how this site thinks.


832 posted on 01/16/2006 5:46:15 PM PST by Skemit
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To: Mo1
Remember back during Alito's hearing and the Dems questions about Bush and about trying to strip the President's authority

Only Democrat Presidents should be allowed to have unlimited power -- because they know how things should be.

833 posted on 01/16/2006 5:47:06 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (A Liberal: One who demands half of your pie because he didn't bake one.)
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To: acsrp38
How many FBI files DID Clinton have???

Around two thousand. But that doesn't count. Clinton was a Democrat.
834 posted on 01/16/2006 5:47:28 PM PST by Hoodat ( Silly Dems)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

You'd think I would have learned by now.


835 posted on 01/16/2006 5:47:47 PM PST by Howlin
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To: ken5050

I'm a conservative who follows you guys and gals here at times. I ain't no Gore fan, but this spying shit has got to go. Barr and Gore are doing the right thing. Shame on you "conservatives" who say otherwise. Your willingness to sell our freedoms for protection will lead to the loss of our republic. That's bad, man. It's not right. I think I will get my news elsewhere from now on if this is how this site thinks.


836 posted on 01/16/2006 5:48:44 PM PST by Skemit
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To: Whitey the Righty

http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/tonysnow/2005/12/09/178552.html
Publish the Barrett report now



http://www.nysun.com/article/25880
Cisneros Probe Stirred Worries Of Democrats


838 posted on 01/16/2006 5:55:02 PM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: kristinn
GORE CALLS FOR SPECIAL COUNSEL INVESTIGATION OF BUSH - Hints at Impeachment of President for Abuse of Power in Domestic Spying Scandal.

Dog ain't gonna hunt. How is the MSM going to swing public opinion which -- even though reported by minimum 10% Leftward-biased polling -- reveals that 65% of the public is IN FAVOR OF PRESIDENT BUSH'S DECISION TO TAP THE PHONES OF SUSPECTED TERRORISTS talking to people who are in the USA? This probably equates to 75% in favor, which in political arena equals 100%, as in game over. The general public is WAY AHEAD of the elitist MSM/Dimo cabal on this issue.

839 posted on 01/16/2006 5:55:05 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (A Liberal: One who demands half of your pie because he didn't bake one.)
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To: gopwinsin04

He must have forgotten!!! Gore is back and looks like he has dropped a ton!!! He is in running form. Wonder what Hill's Plan B will be? It will be interesting???


840 posted on 01/16/2006 5:55:29 PM PST by macdougal
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