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To: rhema
I have never considered myself a feminist. When I was little my mom conveyed to me that feminism was for women who were unfortunate enough to be both unattractive AND stupid.

However...I must say that while persistence, hard work and keeping my wits about me have given me a great career, freedom for travel and adventure, and financial success, all of that was made a little easier to achieve because of the feminist movement.

Feminism for all its faults did open doors. It's just that there are still a lot of ugly, stupid women standing on the threshold complaining instead of just walking through.

And I had no trouble getting married in my late 30s. That men are intimidated by intelligent, strong women is a myth. Men just don't like women who treat them like sh!t. And I don't blame them.

13 posted on 01/13/2006 3:49:56 AM PST by meowmeow (Meow! Meow!)
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To: meowmeow

By the way...a whole pile of left wingers has polluted the Amazon comments section over the past 24 hours. They reverse "freeped" Amazon.

Any of you with Amazon accounts, please comment. The link is above in the article.

My problem with the comments are 1) that none of them have read the book and 2) most of them bring their opposition to the Iraq War into the picture as usual.

I wouldn't mind negative comments that came from actually reading the book and staying on subject. I already stated above that I disagree with two premises stated in the article about the book...it is possible that this book can be ripped apart on its merits/demerits. But I will have to READ it first.


21 posted on 01/13/2006 4:19:30 AM PST by GermanBusiness
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To: meowmeow
...while persistence, hard work and keeping my wits about me have given me a great career, freedom for travel and adventure, and financial success, all of that was made a little easier to achieve because of the feminist movement. Feminism for all its faults did open doors.

Perhaps. But if you read Carolyn Graglia's book Domestic Tranquillity, you'll realize that before the advent of feminism there were many successful business and professional women. It can be argued that feminism put up legal barriers against sexual harassment and discrimination, but a just society prohibits those things without requiring also the eradication of rights for men. If you ask older professional women they will tell you that they faced small annoyances but no outright prohibition on their career-seeking behavior, and if their sisters chose to be housewives and mothers, it was because back then most women had the option to be housewives and mothers if they wished. Today, thanks to feminism and its liberal friends, it's much more difficult for a woman to choose those worthy domestic careers.

41 posted on 01/13/2006 7:21:43 AM PST by Capriole (I don't have any problems that can't be solved by more chocolate or more ammunition.)
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To: meowmeow

"Men just don't like women who treat them like sh!t. And I don't blame them."

That bears repeating. Obviously that axe swings both ways too.

:)


45 posted on 01/13/2006 7:36:51 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: meowmeow
However...I must say that while persistence, hard work and keeping my wits about me have given me a great career, freedom for travel and adventure, and financial success, all of that was made a little easier to achieve because of the feminist movement. Feminism for all its faults did open doors. It's just that there are still a lot of ugly, stupid women standing on the threshold complaining instead of just walking through. And I had no trouble getting married in my late 30s. That men are intimidated by intelligent, strong women is a myth. Men just don't like women who treat them like sh!t. And I don't blame them.

I agree with your whole post :~D

59 posted on 01/13/2006 8:57:44 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: meowmeow
Feminism for all its faults did open doors.

Hmmm, no it didn't. Does the name Hedy Lamarr ring a bell?


70 posted on 01/13/2006 9:30:37 AM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: meowmeow

I'm not sure the feminist movement had very much to do with any of those advancements you mention at all.
Long before the opportunistic "feminist movement" as it appeared in the US and some other Western democracies, there were still outstanding females doing things against even greater odds, because there was little social "consciousness" surrounding the "issue" ( it actually WASN'T an issue then, it was just an odd fact of life that there were women like (to name just a few ), Marie Curie, Frida Kahlo, Sarah Bernhardt, Mary McCarthy. The feminist movement didn't "open" doors so much and blast the doorways open, making them wide enough to include great numbers of average women coming through along with the extraordinary individuals who were also women, to come through alongside them. These extraordinary women have always existed, even in the darkest days of female oppression, because they were INDIVIDUALS, and the feminists seized on the opportunity to create a sleight-of-hand to make it look like their consciousness-raising CREATED all female accomplishment that followed the arrival of feminism on the scene.


71 posted on 01/13/2006 9:41:14 AM PST by willyboyishere ("When the superficial wearies me, it wearies me so much that I need an abyss in order to rest")
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