Posted on 01/13/2006 2:04:44 AM PST by rhema
By the way...a whole pile of left wingers has polluted the Amazon comments section over the past 24 hours. They reverse "freeped" Amazon.
Any of you with Amazon accounts, please comment. The link is above in the article.
My problem with the comments are 1) that none of them have read the book and 2) most of them bring their opposition to the Iraq War into the picture as usual.
I wouldn't mind negative comments that came from actually reading the book and staying on subject. I already stated above that I disagree with two premises stated in the article about the book...it is possible that this book can be ripped apart on its merits/demerits. But I will have to READ it first.
Gotta love that Mel.
Typical.
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[The common factor with both is that the males (each child has a different father, a total of 4) had their fun and left.]
I could list a dozen major bad things about "feminism", but I never saw "feminism" as encouraging men not to take responsibility for children and/or not to pay child support.
Still, I know where you are coming from. You are saying that "nihilism" among many male individuals has resulted from the "sexual revolution."
But there are still many responsible single conservative males who would give the Democrats 100 Senators and a Democrat President before they allowed anyone to try to re-institutionalize a distaste for premarital sex in American society. It is a red line that no Republican politician ever wants to cross. The single male vote is huge. One shouldn't mess with it.
I have freeped all 112 reviews. 90% of them are astonishingly shrill: the 11 or so sensible ones stand out.
Your thoughts?
[I have freeped all 112 reviews. 90% of them are astonishingly shrill: the 11 or so sensible ones stand out.]
That is true. To read the left wing comments on this book...is to get a great picture of where feminism is in today's America: socialist, against Iraqi freedom as a priority, against the idea of actually reading things they might not agree with.
Sadly, the feminists who claimed to want open minds to OPEN the doors of jobs and education; are the same feminists who can't abide anyone having views not in lockstep with their own. Feminists have become what they said they hated: Oppressive, dictatorial, tyrannical, bigots.
Feminism has won the right for women to be a obnoxious as men. Some victory...
I don't know if I'm ready to give credit for these things to liberals. The weekend -- don't know the history, but the Sabbath rest was God's idea.
Women asking men out for coffee -- history shows that women have been pretty adept at this sort of thing. In some eras, women could be pretty open about it. In others, they might have to make the man think it was his idea. Either way, we usually accomplish our purpose -- whether through bold conversation, wit, beauty, guile or good cooking!
As for child labor, I think we've perhaps overdone it with the laws. I'm not saying I support labor for very young children, sweat shops, or parents using children to support them in their laziness. But my father worked various jobs from the age of 12, and he did help to support his widowed mother and large family. I believe it built tremendous strength, character and common sense in him.
By contrast, my 17-year old son and many of his contemporaries believe everything should be given to them. We had to force our son to get a job. (Weeks before his 17th birthday, he accused us of forcing him to grow up too quickly! He's 6'7", making his statement even more comical.) He is prevented by law from working during traditional school hours, even though his particular educational schedule leaves him open during some of these hours. (We're looking into applying for permission.) But in the few weeks he has been working, I've seen tremendous improvement in his attitude.
"I could list a dozen major bad things about "feminism", but I never saw "feminism" as encouraging men not to take responsibility for children and/or not to pay child support. "
their promotion of promiscuity,contraception-"reproductive freedom "and belief that men are not necessary in raising children--released men from responsibility .
A lot of women (for some reason) have turned blue in the face trying to shun men while trying to be more like a man, however, God didn't make us that way. Also, on the other hand, a lot of men have become more like spoiled defenseless oversensitive little brats that refuse the concepts of responsibility, integrity, old-fashioned chivalry, courtesy, compassion, self-sacrifice, etc., in vain attempt to do something called 'getting in touch with their feminine side".
I see it as a fiasco from a social standpoint.
Don't get me wrong, there are many many women (single moms too) that are so together with their positions in life, that many men cannot stand in the same sun with them. Sadly, a whole passel of young boys have been raised without fathers and have not had that physical role model as to what being a real man is......it ties with the concepts above.
Overall, thank God for women and their inherent emotional strengths and instincts, even though, sometimes they can be a real pain in the butt. ;)
[As for child labor, I think we've perhaps overdone it with the laws.]
Oh yes, you're right! I forgot about that. The liberals did take this issue too far (as they do with everything).
Here in Germany my best friend's kids were a fantastic Brady Bunch type band called "Fresh Paint." They flashed on the scene 8 years ago with a major hit. They could have been the German Partridge Family.
But Child Labor Laws in Germany put them out of business right quick. The proceeds from their one hit will trickle in as pocket change for the rest of their lives now. But the proceeds they could have earned from getting 9 or 10 hits during their teenage years...could have given them all more than just pocket money to enjoy their adult lives with (and to raise their own children with).
The liberals always go too far. And, yes, even with their concepts of sex, as seen in "Sex in the City."
I meandered on over to Amazon and indeed, 100+ reviews, all in the last day, with 1 star and a few lines of hate. Interestingly, many of the reviews have "45 of 48 people found the following review helpful", yet they were written in the last day. There is obviously an organized effort on a few DUmmies to bury the book via the Amazon ranking system.
I did my part and clicked the NOT HELPFUL link on the reviews.
The liberals didn't do any of that, in keeping with their historic inability to do anything right. In this piece, the author sets things straight:
In the US, the average work week was 61 hours in 1870, compared to 34 hours today, and this near doubling of leisure time for American workers was caused by capitalism, not unionism.
The shorter work week is entirely a capitalist invention. As capital investment caused the marginal productivity of labor to increase over time, less labor was required to produce the same levels of output. As competition became more intense, many employers competed for the best employees by offering both better pay and shorter hours. Those who did not offer shorter work weeks were compelled by the forces of competition to offer higher compensating wages or become uncompetitive in the labor market.
Capitalistic competition is also why "child labor" has all but disappeared, despite unionist claims to the contrary. Young people originally left the farms to work in harsh factory conditions because it was a matter of survival for them and their families. But as workers became better paidthanks to capital investment and subsequent productivity improvementsmore and more people could afford to keep their children at home and in school.
[their promotion of promiscuity,contraception-"reproductive freedom "and belief that men are not necessary in raising children--released men from responsibility]
Excellent point. Logical argument even to those who might not agree with it. But, now how many Republican candidates for national office would dare to say something like that?
Would use of the word "promiscuity" cost, for instance, Senator George Allen the 2008 election against Hillary?
No need to worry - the book is (as of right now) #38 in Amazon's top-selling books list.
And I'd bet the ranch he's much more than "vaguely unhygienic".
I can't believe you're trying to start this straw man argument all over again. There is no movement, nor was there ever, to ban premarital sex. If you don't want to be criticized for it, too bad. The US and the internet still have free speech. Now drop it, nobody's buying what you're trolling.
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