Posted on 01/07/2006 3:05:29 PM PST by avile
All the Israelis need to do for peace is to become a Normal people and throw out the vestiges of Judaism and the world will love them and anti semitism will disappear.
They should take away the ultra orthodox children from their parents, cut off their payot give them non kosher food blow cigarette smoke into their faces on Shabbat, tell them that their parents are medieval and deny their parents jobs if they send their kids to religious schools. Then use the power of the media to complain of religious coercion.
Hey it worked for the Yemenites. They are now a NORMAL people.
Next get rid of any vestiges of Judaism from pop culture. We need to copy and Hebricize American high culture like Britney Spears. Except she is too modest for us .Too be a Normal people we need our pop singers to be even more revealing and her music is too complex. So what if in the galut we produced Mendelson, Mahler and Shonberg- we need NORMAL music- we need DANA INTERNATIONAL!
Next we need to be righteous . we need to show the Palestinians we can be friends. Lets get out of the territories and give them enough money to match our standard of living. If we do the same for our Palis in pre-67 Israel they will love us and not only become the most loyal of citizens they will be "more Israeli than the Israelis" .In fact the next generation of officer corps will be Palis!
After all that is done at least 2 million American Reform Jews will make aliyah.
Because their Jewish commitment is so strong , they have been itching to move here but have been holding back because we were not righteous enough. Once we show them that we are they WILL COME!
Next all the hiloni yordim (1 million) will return!
NOT!
The morons who think they can hide behind a fence will soon have their eyes opened for them. While the majority of Israeli's don't want to control the lives of these Arabs, they're living in a fools paradise if they think they can wall themselves off. The world will continue to make demands, the Arabs will be allowed in, and the terrorism will continue. The solution is either to allow Israel to be destroyed and the Jews exterminated, or for the Jews to finally stand up and do what it right.
And that is ?...
What the Torah tells them to do. Terrorists, and those who support them, must be exterminated. Being an American, as I am, I would hope that you remember 9/11 and that you agree.
For starters, advertise the following in major papers throughout America:
PLO admits Palestinian People is a myth.
*"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism."
PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein, March 31, 1977
16 posted on 12/23/2005 2:12:00 PM EST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
Then make sure that any further attacks result in a Six Days War conflict. Arabs have a centuries long record proving they understand best power and vengence.
America and Israel have the power. 'Tis time to use it.
They can build a wall, but the citizen arabs will help elect self hating dreck that will weaken Israel further and since it will have withdrawn to aushwitz borders the syrians and egyptians can finish the job.
Oh and the Jewish media libs wont care- Kushner will write a new screenplay about how Israel should never have been reborn and Jon stewart libowitz will have more gentile babies.
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There won’t be a comprehensive peace agreement, only conflict containment for a generation. We don’t want to determine the lives of millions of Palestinian Arabs. They won’t work or even visit on our side of the fence. We won’t go there. They can do what they want over there, create a Middle East Switzerland or, as is actually happening now in the Gaza Strip, sink into lawless anarchy. We don’t care.Sums it up, IMHO.
You were expecting something else ?
I would think the overriding issue for Israelis is to stop the killing of Jews. Period. Whatever that takes.
Not to mention the fence does not have a hand that reaches up to knock down incoming missiles.
The small minority of Jews you describe are more of a threat than millions of Muslims who seem to hate us? Hmmm... let me think.
No, I don't see it. Sorry.
Except for a relatively small number of zealots, religious nationalists with a messiah complex and their American supporters, most Israelis, and indeed most Jews everywhere, see it the way you do. I don't feel that holding onto lands with a million and a half hostile Arabs and a few thousand Jews stuck in there in Gaza made any sense at all.
There is nothing more important in Judaism than saving lives. There are no holy sites in Gaza and precious little Jewish history at all. There is lots of the "promised land" we don't control. I suppose some would want us to invade Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon to claim it. I prefer to believe that promise will be fulfilled when moshiach comes, not before.
So... I continue to support unilateral separation and I plan to vote for Kadima. I continue to be criticized and called a leftist on Free Republic even though I am center-right in Israel. If you don't agree with Benny Elon (or perhaps consider him too liberal) on Free Republic then you will be attacked and called insane. Get used to it.
What is "do what is right"? What is your brilliant plan?
Do you know how many times Palestinians from Gaza, which is walled off, have infiltrated Israel and committed an act of terror (i.e.: a suicide bombing)? The correct number is one, the Ashdod bombing. The number of suicide bombers coming in from Judea and Samaria has been greatly reduced by a combination of the (still incomplete) security fence and IDF action.
It is certainly true that the fence won't stop Qassam rockets. It is also true that it won't stop the IDF from taking action against those who threaten or attack us. The fence works. It is not a perfect solution, no. When you come up with a perfect solution, one that will actually work and not threaten Israel's very existance, please do let us know.
One thing we will not do: allow ourselved to be destroyed. This isn't an either/or thing the way you descibe it.
--Sums it up, IMHO.
Indeed it does. All I care is that the Palestinians ability to kill Jews is reduced as close to nil as is humanly possible. If they want peace, good lives, and to live next to us in peace I'd be all for it. If they rot in their own self-created misery that's fine with me too, so long as they don't do harm to anyone else.
Exterminate all terrorists and their supporters. Last year, Israel had an opportunity to take out a bunch of terrorists but they used a smaller bomb than they should have because they were worried that "innocent" Arabs might be killed. The terrorists weren't killed. In another incident, the Israelis use ground troops, exposing them to greater danger (and some of them were killed), to avoid killing "innocent" Arabs. The Arab culture is one of hatred and death. They glorify it and teach it to their children. While there are some Arabs who are truly innocent, the overwhelming majority allow the culture to go on. If the Israelis continue to care more about innocent Arabs than innocent Jews, they will be destroyed.
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