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Imam busted in gun rap (Praised 9/11 Attacks)
NY Daily News ^ | 1/7/06 | JOE MAHONEY, JEGO ARMSTRONG, ALISON GENDAR

Posted on 01/07/2006 5:41:55 AM PST by jimbo123

A controversial Muslim cleric who defended Sept. 11 terrorists was busted on gun charges and computers were seized from his Bronx and upstate homes, authorities said.

Imam Warith Deen Umar, 61, a former top Muslim chaplain for state prisons, said FBI agents and NYPD detectives grilled him on possible terrorist ties after he was arrested Dec. 30 in a fight with a tenant in a Bronx building he owns.

"They started questioning me if I knew about Al Qaeda, suicide bombers and the first World Trade [Center] bombing," the cleric said last night.

"I don't know why they would ask me those kinds of questions. If you have anything to do with Islam or are Muslim you are automatically a terrorist," he said.

Umar created a storm of opposition when he was quoted in a 2003 Wall Street Journal article supporting the 9/11 terrorists.

"Even Muslims who say they are against terrorism secretly admire and applaud" the hijackers, The Journal said he wrote in an unpublished memoir. He also said the prisons were ripe for radical converts. Umar claims he was misquoted.

After the article, the New York State prison system barred the cleric from all its facilities. He had served the prison system more than 20 years, training a generation of Muslim chaplains to minister to the prison population. Umar said law enforcement have been gunning for him ever since.

NYPD, FBI and local police searched Umar's upstate home in Glenmont, outside of Albany, yesterday for weapons. Computers were seized but no weapons found, a police source said.

A prospective tenant, Juan Burgos, said the cleric threatened him with a 12-gauge shotgun, and threatened to "f------ kill him" during a rent dispute at Umar's Union Ave. apartment building.

Police seized the shotgun and .22-caliber rifle from Umar's apartment. He was charged Dec. 30 with menacing and weapons possession.

The cleric claims agents and officers who searched his Bronx apartment desecrated his Koran by ripping off its cover and tossing it on the floor.

Umar, who has served time on weapons charges and was arrested in the 1960s for conspiracy to kill a cop, claimed the gun was not loaded and that he never pointed it at the younger man.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: muslims
Another upstanding member of the "Religion of Peace."
1 posted on 01/07/2006 5:41:56 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123
If you have anything to do with Islam or are Muslim you are automatically a terrorist," he said.

I know he was trying to be sarcastic, but this statement is accurate as near as I can tell.
2 posted on 01/07/2006 5:46:30 AM PST by wolfpat (Dum vivimus, vivamus.)
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To: jimbo123
I don't know why they would ask me those kinds of questions.

He's right on that one. The question however should be why wasn't he being questioned a long time ago. BTW, what's his legal status? Or is he a convert?

3 posted on 01/07/2006 5:47:27 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: jimbo123
"Even Muslims who say they are against terrorism secretly admire and applaud" the hijackers"

He is correct, of course, he was stupid to let the cat out of the bag.
4 posted on 01/07/2006 5:50:39 AM PST by Ninian Dryhope ("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
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To: jimbo123
He must be released immediately, (John Murthas) immediately if not sooner because they did not get permission from Hilliary and the Democrats to arrest him. I will even bet they did not consult "Chuckie" the "Plummer" Schumer.
5 posted on 01/07/2006 5:57:51 AM PST by gunnedah
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He needs a couple of years down at Club Gitmo! I think this guy is a "homegrown" terrorist
6 posted on 01/07/2006 6:10:12 AM PST by southernerwithanattitude (new and improved redneck)
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To: jimbo123; Calpernia; Velveeta; StillProud2BeFree; neosgirl; Honestly

A controversial Muslim cleric who defended Sept. 11 terrorists was
busted on gun charges and computers were seized from his Bronx and
upstate homes, authorities said.

Imam Warith Deen Umar, 61, a former top Muslim chaplain for state
prisons, said FBI agents and NYPD detectives grilled him on possible<<<<<<<<<<<

Ping


7 posted on 01/07/2006 6:14:21 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Socialist=communist,elected to office,paid with your taxes: http://bernie.house.gov/pc/members.asp)
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To: jimbo123

this guy's gonna get away with it. thats the dumb part.


8 posted on 01/07/2006 6:22:12 AM PST by wcgo2 ("i'm noy saying you're wrong...im just saying your logic sucks and i just owned you")
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WARITH DEEN UMAR

www.DiscoverTheNetwork.org Date: 1/7/2006 9:19:47 AM

WARITH DEEN UMAR

  • Muslim cleric
  • Former Islamic chaplain of New York’s prison system
  • In 1971 was a member of the Harlem Five, and was tried on conspiracy-to-murder charges
  • Even Muslims who say they are against terrorism secretly admire and applaud [the 9/11 hijackers]. . . . This is the sort of teaching they don’t want in prison. But this is what I’m doing.”

 

Warith Deen Umar is a Muslim cleric who, prior to his retirement in 2000, spent some twenty years helping to run New York’s growing Islamic prison program, recruiting and training dozens of chaplains, and ministering to thousands of inmates himself. With help from the Saudi government, he traveled to Saudi Arabia and brought that country's harsh form of Islam to New York's expanding ranks of Muslim prisoners. He continues to visit New York state prisons as a volunteer chaplain.

He believes that the September 11 hijackers should be honored as martyrs, and that the U.S. risks further terrorism attacks because it oppresses Muslims around the world. “Without justice, there will be warfare, and it can come to this country, too,” he says. In his view, the natural candidates to help press such an attack are African-Americans who embrace Islam in prison. While Imam Umar says the focus of his preaching usually "is on work, family and getting an education," he also says that prison "is the perfect recruitment and training grounds for radicalism and the Islamic religion." Umar adds, "There is more happening in this country than most people know about," he says regarding the Muslim anger that is quietly building behind bars and on the outside. "Prisons are a powder keg. The question is the ignition."

Even Muslims who say they are against terrorism secretly admire and applaud” the hijackers, Umar wrote in an unpublished memoir. The Koran, he said, does not condemn terrorism against oppressors of Muslims, even if innocent people die. This is the sort of teaching they don't want in prison,” he said. But this is what I'm doing.”

A prison chaplain since 1975, Umar has seen Islam grow among inmates, mirroring the vast increase in the incarceration of African-Americans, some of whom adopt the religion as inmates. As the most influential Muslim prison chaplain in New York, which has the fourth-largest state system in the nation, he and some of his trainees adopted the fundamentalist offshoot of Sunni Islam known as Wahhabism. Rooted in Saudi Arabia, it stresses a literal reading of the Koran and intolerance for people and sects that do not follow its absolutist teaching. The chaplains have operated with little supervision from state prison officials, who say the constitutional protection of religious freedom prevents them from closely monitoring religious services.

Imam Umar -- born Wallace Gene Marks and later known as Wallace 10X -- twice has traveled to Saudi Arabia for worship and study at the expense of the Saudi government and its affiliated charities, part of an extensive program aimed at spreading Islam in U.S. prisons. He and other prison chaplains also have studied and attended conferences at an Islamic school in Virginia that U.S. officials raided in 2002 in a probe of organizations suspected of helping move Saudi money to Middle Eastern terrorists.

Umar and some of his colleagues have brought Wahhabism's harshest prejudices to their captive flock. On Sept. 11, 2001, the chaplain at the men's prison in remote Cape Vincent, N.Y., preached that God had inflicted his punishment on the wicked and the victims deserved what they got, according to a labor arbitrator's subsequent ruling upholding his firing. Shocked officials at the prison didn't intervene for fear of sparking a riot. About six weeks later, the chaplain at the Albion Correctional Facility for women told inmates that Osama bin Laden "is a soldier of Allah, a hero of Allah," prison officials say.

New York also has seen a rash of complaints from inmates who adhere to the minority Shiite sect of Islam. The tension reflects a centuries-old split between Shiites and the Sunni majority. Imam Umar and other chaplains have imported into New York prisons Sunni absolutist perspectives, some inmates say, including a bias against Shiites. Nearly all the chaplains he helped hire are Sunni.

Imam Umar helped pioneer government-paid Muslim prison ministry in the 1970s, but his earliest experiences behind bars were as a teenage criminal. He says he spent his 15th and 16th birthdays in Illinois jails for purse snatchings and drug crimes. "I went to jail too many times to count," he says.

Wallace Gene Marks, as he was then known, moved to New York in the late 1960s and befriended a group of fledgling militants in Harlem. He and his friends talked "about taking off pigs [police officers] and spreading guns and weapons to people," he says. They were overheard by two undercover police officers.

He and four others, dubbed the Harlem Five, were tried on conspiracy-to-murder charges in 1971. "We only had my 9mm handgun, another defendant's 30-30 rifle and some crude hand-made bombs, fashioned with gun powder and nails," he says. The Harlem Five argued that their talk had been just bravado and beat the conspiracy charges. Wallace Marks, however, was sent to prison for possessing weapons. "If it happened today, I would have been called a terrorist," he says.

Before beginning his two-year prison term, he visited Nation of Islam kingpin Louis Farrakhan, who promised that Allah would protect him. Mr. Marks became a Nation of Islam leader in prison and later changed his name to Wallace 10X. In 1975, shortly after he was released, New York put the 30-year-old parolee on its payroll as one of the state's first two Muslim chaplains. Some of the other early Muslim chaplains also were ex-convicts. Eventually he moved to the more orthodox Sunni school of Islam and changed his name to Warith Deen Umar.


This profile was adapted from the article "Criminal Fifth Column," written by Paul Barrett and published by FrontPageMagazine.com on February 5, 2003.

9 posted on 01/07/2006 6:27:09 AM PST by csvset
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To: wolfpat

Yep. They are all suspect. Remember after 911 when the FBI paid visits to 5000 of them? That had to be just the very teeniest tiny tip of the iceberg.


10 posted on 01/07/2006 6:27:15 AM PST by gotribe (Hillary: Accessory to Rape)
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To: jimbo123

Again it seems that the only place that islam is spread by means other than the sword is in our prison system.


11 posted on 01/07/2006 6:36:50 AM PST by Roccus
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To: csvset

Get them out of here.


12 posted on 01/07/2006 6:44:57 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Don't buy Bose. Their warranty is no good.)
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To: Ninian Dryhope
Even Muslims who say they are against terrorism secretly admire and applaud" the hijackers"

You may not know how right you are. Read the following: al Taqiyya
13 posted on 01/07/2006 6:47:05 AM PST by Man50D
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To: Roccus
"There is more happening in this country than most people know about," he says regarding the Muslim anger that is quietly building behind bars and on the outside. "Prisons are a powder keg. The question is the ignition."

Another boast from a coward fundamentalist.

They boast and threaten, but they are still the most ball-less men on the planet.

14 posted on 01/07/2006 6:50:06 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (9-11 is your Peace Dividend)
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To: csvset
For later, and thanks for the links.

L

15 posted on 01/07/2006 6:51:59 AM PST by Lurker (You don't let a pack of wolves into the house just because they're related to the family dog.)
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To: jimbo123
FBI agents and NYPD detectives grilled him on possible terrorist ties

Well, that's no way to ensure safe and proper grilling. I'd recommend a large barbecue, preferrably propane.

The cleric claims agents and officers who searched his Bronx apartment desecrated his Koran by ripping off its cover and tossing it on the floor.

I see he's got his DNC talking points, though in need of update. He should have asked if his phone had been illegally-tapped by The Criminal Boosh.

16 posted on 01/07/2006 6:57:50 AM PST by Squeako (ACLU: "Only Christians, Boy Scouts and War Memorials are too vile to defend.")
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To: jimbo123
Pretty much shows how gun laws can be used for oppression, though. Mind you, this guy may deserve oppressing, but he could also be anyone the state wants to play "gotcha!" with.
17 posted on 01/07/2006 7:31:30 AM PST by Grut
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To: jimbo123
'Even Muslims who say they are against terrorism secretly admire and applaud" the hijackers'

So true.

18 posted on 01/07/2006 7:38:54 AM PST by gedeon3
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