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To: Pelayo
Even republican presidential candidate Stephan Douglas (who was not immune to Sumner's personal attacks), said Sen. Sumner would probably get shot for what he had said about Sen. Brooks..

Gawd have mercy son, where did ya learn yer American history? The Little Giant, was a Democrat NOT a Republican, and who the halo is Senator Brooks?

However, if Lincoln had done what you think “would have been much better for this country,” Kentucky, Missouri, Maryland, and Delaware absolutely all would have gone out before the dust cleared.

Lincoln? Who said anything about Mr. Lincoln? The President of the United States when South Carolina seceded was a corrupt invertabrate Democrat named James Buchanan. If he had upheld his oath of office there never would have been a Civil War. But I'm sure that such a concept is unfathomable to someone who is as sloppy with their understanding of history as you seem to be.

Don't let your lack of understanding of a subject ever get in the way of your expressing your opinion on it though, that might actually require you to think...

514 posted on 01/13/2006 10:18:35 PM PST by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu l’aidera)
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To: mac_truck
...where did ya learn yer American history? The Little Giant, was a Democrat NOT a Republican, and who the halo is Senator Brooks?

Yes, my mistake, that should have read “Even Democrat presidential candidate Stephan Douglas,” not republican. I apologize for the confusion. As to the second line, that's a product of late editing. Originally it read "...Sen. Butler and his nephew Rep. Brooks..." But I didn't like the way that ran because I wanted to mention Butler second so as to emphasis the nature of Sumner's comments. I just screwed up when I shortened it is all. Again, I apologize for the errors, it was too early in the morning for me (almost as early as this in fact), and I was rushing to get it done.

Lincoln? Who said anything about Mr. Lincoln? The President of the United States when South Carolina seceded was a corrupt invertabrate Democrat named James Buchanan.

I'm sorry, when you said the navy should have bombarded Charleston I thought you where referring to the fleet Lincoln HAD sent but which didn't do anything. After all it is unlikely that at the precise second of South Carolina's declaring of itself seceded from the union their could have been any kind of military response. Lincoln was not officially president, as you point out. But, he was president elect. And once in office he did eventually send a fleet down. But they didn't arrive before the attack began on the Fort, and I'm pretty sure they stayed outside the harbor the whole time.

If there are anymore areas of misunderstanding please point them out to me. I don't have anyone to proof-read my posts, not this early anyway, and I do make mistakes. I hope you will understand, and give me the courtesy of accepting my explanation and apology so that we can debate the points at issue more effectively and without misunderstanding.

515 posted on 01/14/2006 1:42:19 AM PST by Pelayo
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