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Earliest known Mayan writing found in Guatemala
Yahoo ^ | 1/6/06 | Mikey_1962

Posted on 01/06/2006 9:02:08 AM PST by Mikey_1962

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does anyone know the putative age of the oldest known writing?


41 posted on 01/06/2006 8:10:51 PM PST by Tevin
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To: Utah Binger
While the writing is mostly indecipherable, Saturno and his team claim one glyph could be an early version of the word "ajaw" or "ruler."

There must be sombody in the Mormon corridor that can translate this.

Okay, here goes....

Some people here aren't going to like this, but one of the earliest names mentioned in the Book of Mormon was "Aha", a leader of the "Jaredite" civilization which was discovered by the "Nephite" group in approximately 200 B.C. (coincidence with these mural's discovery?).

The "Jaredites" IMHO correspond with the Olmec culture, which existed in the Yucatan and Gulf area approximately from 2,500 B.C to 200 B.C. The name is pronounced in the Book of Mormon as "Ah-Haw", the same as Mayans pronounce it today. That Joe Smith was one lucky guesser.

42 posted on 01/06/2006 8:12:03 PM PST by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: Auntie Dem; Utah Binger
That Joe Smith was one lucky guesser.

There is a second possibility. Nephilim (plural for Nephi) are found listed in Genesis. It is the contention of most linguists that the root for this word is "fallen one." (Although LDS scholars presume that it is an Egyptian word meaning "enlightened one".)

In Genesis it is clearly an illusion to the fallen angels - maybe Joe Smith was getting his "inspiration" from the wrong side....Satan works in mysterious ways.

43 posted on 01/07/2006 8:09:42 AM PST by colorcountry (I have a BS in B.S.)
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To: Tax-chick

Now you got it. It was intended as such.


44 posted on 01/07/2006 8:12:26 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: Mikey_1962

It said "Rigoberta Menchu is easy."


45 posted on 01/07/2006 8:15:39 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim ("We're a meat-based society.")
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To: bert
It was intended as such.

Good possibility - hadn't occurred to me :-).

46 posted on 01/07/2006 8:16:37 AM PST by Tax-chick (I am just not sure how to get from here to where we want to be.)
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To: Tevin

Some inscriptions in what is now Pakistan are dated at 3,500 B.C. IIRC, the earliest deciphered writings, from Mesopotamia, are believed to be public-works accounting records, an excellent example of "People are always the same."


47 posted on 01/07/2006 8:20:07 AM PST by Tax-chick (I am just not sure how to get from here to where we want to be.)
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To: TChris
"from the time when he was really alive."

Isn't it amazing how many people comprehend the Ressurrection, but fail to grasp He is alive in body, soul and spirit today and evermore.

48 posted on 01/07/2006 8:24:50 AM PST by Cvengr (<;^))
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To: colorcountry

illusion=allusion


49 posted on 01/07/2006 8:26:12 AM PST by colorcountry (I have a BS in B.S.)
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To: colorcountry

And here from the original manuscripts we find the pot stirrer with another "Ah Hah", having discovered how easy it is to get the masses riled up. And verily, they fall for it every time.

50 posted on 01/07/2006 9:38:19 AM PST by Utah Binger (Proud To Have Recovered!)
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To: Utah Binger
Now how do we know they pronounced the glyph 'Ah Ha,' or even Ajaw. It's just a glyph....we don't know how it was pronounced or even if it even MEANS King....but there are those who have jumped to conclusions....if you know what I mean.
51 posted on 01/07/2006 3:55:49 PM PST by colorcountry (I have a BS in B.S.)
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To: colorcountry

Beware of geeks bearing glyphs!


52 posted on 01/07/2006 4:01:08 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

Or gleeks bearing gyps.


53 posted on 01/07/2006 4:26:59 PM PST by colorcountry (I have a BS in B.S.)
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To: Mikey_1962; Fractal Trader; BenLurkin; blam

Ten glyphs
Reuters - Thu Jan 5, 5:14 PM ET -- A stone excavated from a Maya royal tomb in San Bartolo that shows the earliest example of Mayan writing ever found lies in a plastic tub in a laboratory in Antigua, Guatemala, January 5, 2006. The 2,300-year-old glyphs were excavated last April in San Bartolo, the same site in northern Guatemala where archaeologist William Saturno found the oldest murals in the Mayan world. REUTERS/Daniel LeClair

54 posted on 01/08/2006 9:53:30 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this URL -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/pledge)
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To: Cvengr
Isn't it amazing how many people comprehend the Ressurrection, but fail to grasp He is alive in body, soul and spirit today and evermore.

Very true, but that isn't what this scientist meant.

55 posted on 01/09/2006 6:47:47 AM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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To: colorcountry

Beware, or you'll end up paying for two Santa Klaus visits. El dia de los Reyes Magos, Jan 6, is the day little kids in Latin America get their Christmas presents. It is traditionally the day the Three Kings arrive in Bethelehem to honor the Baby Jesus. Rosca de Los Reyes is the cake-like bread you make and eat that day.


56 posted on 01/09/2006 2:44:24 PM PST by 3AngelaD
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To: Nathan Zachary

B.S. So, how do they know how old this writing is? Did the Myans make the rocks they wrote on at the same time? Or did they use "used" rocks from a different geological age to make these pyramids, or rocks they wrote on? Did they (the writers) even make the pyramids? Or were they made by someone else? If they were made by someone use, did they make the rocks used, or did they use "used" rocks they found in the area? Were all the used rocks uniform in geological age? were they all from the same area? So many questions. Not one answer can be proven. But notice how fast they came up with the 2,300 years old number without one lick of proof.

"The glyphs, thin black paintings on off-white stucco,..."

Black paint--charcoal pigment. Charcoal has a high carbon content.

57 posted on 01/10/2006 7:32:59 AM PST by elli1
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To: Koblenz
These are glyphs, so pictures, right? Not an alphabet per se. Although I heard somewhere that all the world's alphabets are related. Roman, Greek, Runic, Arabic, Cyrillic, various Indian subcontinent alphabets and even Asiatic alphabets.

I found this interesting:

The Chinese Alphabet>

58 posted on 01/10/2006 7:43:15 AM PST by elli1
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MacOS X version is available now:

http://www.macdownloads.com/info.php/id/25773/chac


59 posted on 12/22/2007 7:40:31 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, December 18, 2007___________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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60 posted on 01/12/2014 5:10:49 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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