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The Messiah Dajjal Has Secretly Started Work
HarunYahya.com ^ | Jan., 2006 | Harun Yahya

Posted on 01/04/2006 10:59:01 PM PST by Dajjal

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To: Dajjal
Here are the signs of the Second Coming ........

1. Jerusalem will return again to Jewish hands shortly before the Second Coming (Luke 21:24):

2. Sometime before the Second Coming, 2/3 of the Jews in the "whole land" will be exterminated (Zechariah 13:8-9). During the Holocaust, almost exactly 2/3 of Europe's Jews perished.

3. The Jewish nation will be reborn in a single day (Isaiah 66:5-8). This was literally fulfilled on May 14, 1948. The modern State of Israel was born in a single day following the passage of UN Resolution 181.

4. Jews will be regathered to Israel from around the entire world. (Ezekiel 36:22-28) and (Jeremiah 16:14-15). The current return of the Jews to Israel apparently even includes Jews from the ten lost tribes. Over the past decade about 600 "B'nei Manashe", a tribe from the Indian-Burmese border, have immigrated to Israel. They believe themselves to be the lost tribe of Manassah, exiled from Israel by the Assyrians in 723 BC. Their oral tradition speaks of the Patriarchs Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob; they circumcise male children on the 8th day, as required by Jewish law; use prayer shawls with fringes, as do Jews; practice ritual purification as described in the OT; and follow many other ancient Jewish religious customs. Their priests use the Hebrew name of God as it appears in the Torah ("Yahweh") and invoke Mt. Sinai, Mt. Moriah and Mt. Zion.

5. The new Jewish state shall be extremely prosperous (Isaiah 66:9-4).

6. The fight over the city of Jerusalem will cause a world war (Zechariah 12:1-3; Joel 3:2 and Revelation 16:16).

7. But Israel will be miraculously militarily strong and able to successfull defend itself (Zechariah 12:6-9).

8. There will be widespread conversion of the Jews.. It is this last one that has not yet been fulfilled.

21 posted on 01/05/2006 12:30:29 AM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: NYer
LOL, these guys have a different list.

There are a lot of websites posting versions of the "Signs of Qiyamah" -- here are a couple. I'm not creating links, because in past threads sometimes they break the link from their side.

http://www.islaam.org/Al_Mahdi/all-one-page.htm

http://www.ajmalbeig.addr.com/qiyamat.htm

22 posted on 01/05/2006 12:41:32 AM PST by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal
The beliefs of Muslims like Harun Yahya need to be understood seriously as the US develops its post-9/11 policy toward the Middle East and the Muslim world.

Smells of multiculturalist gibberish. One doesn't need to understand the 'why' behind the acts of terrorists. Their deaths are deterrents. Let them think what they want (Mohammed didn't diddle 9 year olds, etc.)...but the minute they act against the U.S., they must be destroyed. Rome didn't ask for therapy sessions to understand Carthage. Rome destroyed it. If you want to hug a jihadist, feel free to do so. Don't expect the U.S. to understand the acts of an irrational death cult.

23 posted on 01/05/2006 12:48:50 AM PST by peyton randolph (<a href="http://clinton.senate.gov/">shrew</a>)
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Smells of multiculturalist gibberish. One doesn't need to understand the 'why' behind the acts of terrorists. Their deaths are deterrents. Let them think what they want (Mohammed didn't diddle 9 year olds, etc.)...but the minute they act against the U.S., they must be destroyed. Rome didn't ask for therapy sessions to understand Carthage. Rome destroyed it. If you want to hug a jihadist, feel free to do so.

To clarify what I mean by "understanding" these beliefs:

Every faithful Muslim accepts a set of End Time beliefs, just like every faithful Christian accepts the Book of Revelations in some interpretation. There are lots -- I mean LOTS -- I mean L O T S of Muslims who believe that the Last Days are coming soon.

Now, they don't all turn terrorist and they aren't all automatically anti-West.

But some of them are terrorists and anti-West.

There's really a delicate balance involved here. Because of the Qur'an's emphasis on "jihad" you need a careful set of interpretations in order to create a nonviolent outlook of the End Time hadith.

Mr. Yahya has one such version here. I tend to ignore them, but this article seemed like a good one to have posted at Free Republic, as FR serves as a repository of information.

As for the violent interpretations, it doesn't mean that you want to "hug a jihadist" to say that it's important to know that an enemy not only hates you, but has a book where his god guarantees him in prophecy that his side is going to be 100% victorious. And that there is no future, anyway, because the End of Time is coming soon. Someone who believes that is more dangerous than an enemy who simply disagrees with your politics, economics, support for Israel, etc.

Which is why I get so frustrated that for the last four years, hardly any attention has been paid to how these Muslim End-Time belief systems intersect with Islamic terrorism -- and zero attention from any government or major media, at least in public.

I support President Bush and the "War on Terror," including his policy in Iraq. But I wish that he's address this factor in that fight. Or assign some lower-level politico to at least mention it as an aside.

Our brave servicemen and women need all the information about the enemy -- and Muslim friends -- that is available.

24 posted on 01/05/2006 1:22:45 AM PST by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal

read later


25 posted on 01/05/2006 1:28:17 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: Dajjal

Instant Karma's gonna get you
Gonna knock you right in the head
You better get yourself together
Pretty soon your gonna be dead

Why in the world are we here?
Surely not to live in pain and fear
Why on Earth are you there
When you're everywhere
Gonna get your share

Well, we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Yeah, we all shine on
On and on and on, on and on


26 posted on 01/05/2006 1:29:06 AM PST by Paulus
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To: Dajjal
Will there never be an end to the spinning out of fantasies of this sort?

I guess not.

27 posted on 01/05/2006 1:29:56 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: Dajjal

Dajjal said in part, "There are lots -- I mean LOTS -- I mean L O T S of Muslims who believe that the Last Days are coming soon.

Now, they don't all turn terrorist and they aren't all automatically anti-West.

But some of them are terrorists and anti-West.

There's really a delicate balance involved here. Because of the Qur'an's emphasis on "jihad" you need a careful set of interpretations in order to create a nonviolent outlook of the End Time hadith."

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OPINION:

Short Version:
AMERICA IS FIGHTING A WAR AGAINST TERRORISM AND TERRORISTS.
It is not a good time to be a terrorist.
That's all a terrorist really needs to know as he/she faces the "End-Times."

Important Note:
Terrorism IS terrorism.
Terrorism wrapped in "jihad" IS terrorism.


29 posted on 01/05/2006 1:38:52 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy

Bump! Well said Cindy.


30 posted on 01/05/2006 1:39:20 AM PST by Pro-Bush (We protect Korea's border better than our own!)
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To: Pro-Bush

Thank you.


31 posted on 01/05/2006 1:39:59 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Dajjal

No one gives a flying fig what a bunch of 7th Century cavemen believe.


32 posted on 01/05/2006 1:47:19 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Dajjal

Thanks for posting the full essay.

Last night's version was an apologetic, whereas this seems more an explanation.


33 posted on 01/05/2006 1:48:08 AM PST by papertyger (We have done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.)
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To: LibWhacker
No one gives a flying fig what a bunch of 7th Century cavemen believe.

Only a fool doesn't give a flying fig what a 7th Century caveman believes if the caveman has a doctorate in chemistry.

34 posted on 01/05/2006 1:52:57 AM PST by papertyger (We have done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.)
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To: Dajjal

Fine, but how is this "News2?


35 posted on 01/05/2006 1:56:05 AM PST by sumocide
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To: Dajjal
"As for the violent interpretations, it doesn't mean that you want to "hug a jihadist" to say that it's important to know that an enemy not only hates you, but has a book where his god guarantees him in prophecy that his side is going to be 100% victorious. And that there is no future, anyway, because the End of Time is coming soon. Someone who believes that is more dangerous than an enemy who simply disagrees with your politics, economics, support for Israel, etc."

Yesterday a homicide bomber killed 30 plus people attending a funeral in Iraq. I do not know how one ever reaches across that kind of mental divide.
36 posted on 01/05/2006 1:59:21 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: papertyger

Yeah, all ten of them. We know who they are, and we'll hunt them down and kill 'em like dogs.


37 posted on 01/05/2006 2:15:19 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Dajjal
The Messiah Dajjal Wants Chaos in the Middle East…

Sigh ... He is getting his way, then, isn't he?

38 posted on 01/05/2006 2:24:00 AM PST by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil

Ping


39 posted on 01/05/2006 5:43:04 AM PST by MrEdd
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To: Dajjal

That was very interesting. thanks.


40 posted on 01/05/2006 6:04:40 AM PST by dljordan
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