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Rose Bowl Live Thread
1/4/05 | me

Posted on 01/03/2006 8:36:04 PM PST by BurbankKarl

Edited on 01/04/2006 2:22:49 PM PST by Lead Moderator. [history]

On January 4, 2006 at 5:00 p.m. (PST) the Rose Bowl Game will host the BCS National Championship, between USC and Texas once again showcasing the best of collegiate football in "The Granddaddy of Them All."® The Rose Bowl will be broadcast exclusively on ABC and on ESPN radio.

Link to ESPN Scoreboard


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: California; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: bcs; bowlgames; collegefootball; football; hookemhorns; longhorns; nationalchampionship; ncaa; pasadena; rosebowl; sports; texas; texasgetsowned; texaswillkillusc; trojans; usc; uscgetsowned; uscwasp0wned
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To: Dashing Dasher

I also predicted in december of 2004 that UNC would beat Illinois for the National Championship in Basketball.


3,601 posted on 01/05/2006 10:02:35 AM PST by Perdogg ("Facts are stupid things." - President Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: Perdogg

How do you do that?

Tarot cards?

Crystal ball?

Do tell!


3,602 posted on 01/05/2006 10:03:26 AM PST by Dashing Dasher (Best Behavior is my middle name!)
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To: soccermom
Didn't LSU barely beat the lowly PAC 10 ASU team by a mere three points? The same team USC pounded 45-7?

LOL - USC scraped by ASU 28-28. ASU was ahead 28-24 with 6 minutes to go. Here are some recap quotes from the USC website... USC website

White rushed for 197 yards in 19 attempts, Bush gained 158 on 17 carries, and the Trojans rallied from 18 points down at the half to beat No. 14 Arizona State 38-28, breaking a Pac-10 and school record with their 26th victory in a row.

Keller's 24-yard pass down the sidelines to Rudy Burgess and Burgess' 6-yard run to the 1 set up a scoring toss to Lee Burghgraef that put Arizona State up 28-24 with 5:57 to play.


3,603 posted on 01/05/2006 10:03:50 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: JeffAtlanta
from AP: The coaches were obligated to crown LSU (13-1), even though USC held the top spot in their poll going into the bowls. Three of the 63 coaches broke the agreement by voting the Trojans No. 1, but it wasn't enough to win that poll.
3,604 posted on 01/05/2006 10:05:17 AM PST by soccermom
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To: JeffAtlanta

Yeah - I already corrected that. Still a better score than your beloved LSU got it the same season against the lowly, unworthy Pac-10 team, huh?


3,605 posted on 01/05/2006 10:06:49 AM PST by soccermom
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To: MikeinIraq

I don't think so. They just played sloppy at times in the first half against a team that could match them on the scoreboard. You have to hang this one USC's defense.


3,606 posted on 01/05/2006 10:07:23 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Nope. The Texas defense hasn't stopped USC once in the 2nd half. 4 possessions, 4 touchdowns. The only way that Texas wins now is if USC beats themselves with a turnover.

Neener neener... :}

3,607 posted on 01/05/2006 10:07:57 AM PST by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: Dashing Dasher

Just instinct.


3,608 posted on 01/05/2006 10:10:18 AM PST by Perdogg ("Facts are stupid things." - President Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: JeffAtlanta

Speaking of LSU...I have to rant for a second...First I'd like to state that I am a WVU Mountaineer. I'm just a little miffed that LSU is ranked ahead of us in the BSC poll. LSU wasn't even the SEC Champion and we beat the SEC Champion.

Thanks for letting me vent. :o) I feel better.


3,609 posted on 01/05/2006 10:10:31 AM PST by N8VTXNinWV
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To: soccermom
The coaches were OBLIGATED to vote with the BCS result.

I realize that - just don't claim that USC was the coaches champion - LSU was.

Look the BCS is a quasi-playoff system developed for the sole purpose of matching up the two top ranked team by a criteria that everyone agrees on and signs on to. The champion of that game is the national champion - it doesn't matter what some journalist with a poll think.

Just like the winner of the superbowl is the NFL champion regardless of their record or what the press thinks about them, the BSC title game winner is the college national champion.

The year that Oklahoma beat FSU for the title, I felt that Miami was the best team in the country, but that doesn't change the fact that Oklahoma won the BCS and are therefore national champions.

The various polls were made irrelevant by the agreement of all major Div-1 teams to join the BCS.

No one but the most adamant fanboys would claim LSU as national champions if they just won the AP poll but USC won the BCS title game.

I think Auburn was the best team last year, but USC won the BCS game so they are national champs. That is the system that everyone agreed to.

3,610 posted on 01/05/2006 10:10:34 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: dfwgator
The last time UF played a non-conf game out of state was Syracuse back in '92

Uh, neither FSU nor Miami are conference games for Florida.

3,611 posted on 01/05/2006 10:11:37 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: JeffAtlanta

Ahh, but those games are in-state against traditional rivals.


3,612 posted on 01/05/2006 10:14:37 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: N8VTXNinWV
I'm just a little miffed that LSU is ranked ahead of us in the BSC poll. LSU wasn't even the SEC Champion and we beat the SEC Champion.

Rankings outside of the top 2 or 3 are just crap shoots. They go by the full body of work and LSU's schedule was much tougher. LSU also destroyed Miami.

3,613 posted on 01/05/2006 10:14:42 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

Where is ASU ranked, and where is LSU ranked? Who won the game when they played? LSU did, of course.

Big difference from first game to end of season.

But, your point is well taken...I believe ASU, UCLA, Oregon, and USC all have good offenses. Of the defenses I have watched this year, I think UCLA was the worst....having said that, my point is about the defense of the conference overall. I only mentioned ASU because I heard the announcer during the bowl game mention that they were ranked 113th (114th now).

I don't believe any team in the SEC is better than USC right now...however, I believe that if USC had to play in the SEC the last three years, they would have more than one loss.


3,614 posted on 01/05/2006 10:16:26 AM PST by Moby Grape
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To: JeffAtlanta
"I realize that - just don't claim that USC was the coaches champion - LSU was." No -- you claimed that only USC fans and the sports media recognized USC as national champs in '04. I pointed out that the coaches did, too. The fact is, most people did.

"No one but the most adamant fanboys would claim LSU as national champions if they just won the AP poll but USC won the BCS title game." And yet most everyone did claim USC as the national champ in that situation. I guess that tells you what they thought of LSU.

"I think Auburn was the best team last year, but USC won the BCS game so they are national champs. That is the system that everyone agreed to." And yet the AP and the coaches didn't go out of their way to grant a share of the national championship to Auburn the way they did with USC the previous year. That should tell you something.
3,615 posted on 01/05/2006 10:17:24 AM PST by soccermom
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To: dfwgator
Ahh, but those games are in-state against traditional rivals.

So? That even makes them tougher.

Playing FSU every year is much tougher than playing some middle of the pack PAC-10 or Big-10 team every few years.

Also Miami is not a traditional rival for Florida.

3,616 posted on 01/05/2006 10:17:43 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: soccermom
And yet the AP and the coaches didn't go out of their way to grant a share of the national championship to Auburn the way they did with USC the previous year. That should tell you something.

You've mentioned this several times but it still doesn't make any sense.

What does Auburn in 2004 have to do with LSU in 2003?

3,617 posted on 01/05/2006 10:19:10 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: JeffAtlanta

That's true. But I wish Florida did play out of state more, as it would help with recruiting out of state. Or schedule home-and-home games with teams like USC or Ohio State, or even Texas. How cool would it be to see those teams play in the Swamp, instead of the same old SEC teams plus the usual creampuffs.


3,618 posted on 01/05/2006 10:20:53 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: soccermom
I pointed out that the coaches did, too. The fact is, most people did.

Three coaches total.

Look, many journalists at the time felt that St Louis was better than New England after the Patriots won the superbowl and that it was a fluke.

That didn't change the fact that New England was still the champion. The BCS championship game winner is the agreed upon champion by all of the member schools. That is the system that everyone signed onto.

Some journalists don't change the agreement that USC and every other Div-1 team signed onto.

3,619 posted on 01/05/2006 10:22:26 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: JeffAtlanta

2003
LSU: BCS, Billingsley, Colley, DeVold, Dunkel, FACT, Massey, NFF, Sagarin, Seattle Times, USA/ESPN
Oklahoma: Berryman
Southern California: AP, Eck, Matthews, NY Times


3,620 posted on 01/05/2006 10:23:10 AM PST by BurbankKarl
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