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To: Fester Chugabrew
"Science from a theistic or atheistic point of view is never entirely testable or falsifiable."

Science doesn't operate from a theistic or an atheistic point of view, it operates from an agnostic point of view. You JUST admitted before that there was no way to chose between explaining things with God or without God from the evidence. THAT is what being agnostic means. God is OUTSIDE the scope of scientific examination.

"To that extent "neither can be chosen over the other" as absolutely determinative of objective reality."

"Both, OTH, present the observer with a different way of going at the evidence and explaining it, and thus the observer is left with more than one choice. He can blindly choose one or the other, or he can weigh the evidence from one or the other and then choose."

What good is having more than one choice if there isn't a way to decide between them?? How does one *weigh the evidence* if there is no scale to weigh it on? You are twisting and turning your argument into a pretzel. You are making logically incompatible statements.

"That is why I welcome both atheistic and theistic science in public schools."

No such science exists.
863 posted on 01/05/2006 5:21:08 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
Science doesn't operate from a theistic or an atheistic point of view, it operates from an agnostic point of view.

Much as we would all like to think so, that simply is not true. You cannot denude observers of their inherent biases. Science cannot happen without human observers. While it may appear to be totally illogical, the reality of theistic and atheistic assumptions effects science continually. It's not a bad thing. It just is.

Obviously science makes a good many statements that make no reference whatsoever to a deity or lack thereof. That does not make the science itself agnostic. It only makes its particular statements agnostic.

Bear in mind that all the heat we are generating over this issue touches on a very small segment of what science is about. The objective agreement between atheists and theists when it comes to science is tremendous.

We are not having riots and lawsuits in my town because our public schools make use of science textbooks that exclude references to God. We should not have riots and lawsuits either if someone happens to come along and suggest that organized matter behaving according to predictable laws may be better explained by intelligent design.

867 posted on 01/05/2006 5:33:10 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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