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To: Fester Chugabrew
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"Atheistic" is an adjective, and it applies to all science that is undertaken with the assumption God is forever and always outside of its purview.

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Science undertaken with the presupposition of natural law is science undertaken with the presuppostion of intelligent design.

So, if science appeals solely to natural law, then that excludes God and is atheistic. But, if science appeals solely to natural law, then that also presupposes ID and is therefore theistic. So does this make science polytheistic? No, that doesn't work. How about paratheistic?

192 posted on 01/03/2006 5:04:05 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: Stultis; Fester Chugabrew
"So, if science appeals solely to natural law, then that excludes God and is atheistic. But, if science appeals solely to natural law, then that also presupposes ID and is therefore theistic. So does this make science polytheistic? No, that doesn't work. How about paratheistic?"

I don't know what it makes science, but I do know what it makes Fester. :)
194 posted on 01/03/2006 5:06:30 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Stultis
So, if science appeals solely to natural law, then that excludes God and is atheistic.

No. Your mistake is in assuming that natural law is necessarily atheistic. It is not. Natural law is evidence of intelligent design because it behaves regularly and consistently. But when "natural" is defined as necessarily excluding God, then it is simply an arbitrary application of the word "natural." Put another way, "natural law" may be considered a created thing from which science may assume an intelligent designer and then proceed.

For someone who is averse to the notion of intelligent design natural law ought to be considered supernatural, because the opposite of intelligent design would produce, if anything, no intelligible law(s), let alone intelligbile matter for law(s) to govern.

213 posted on 01/03/2006 5:37:40 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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