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To: highball
How else are they going to do an end run around the Constitution?

One does not have to do an "end run" around the Constitution to favor a policy that respects people of all faiths, including atheists, in public schools. Nor does one have to do an "end run" around the Constitution to argue in a court of law against the establishment of purely atheistic science in public schools.

156 posted on 01/03/2006 4:00:28 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
One does not have to do an "end run" around the Constitution to favor a policy that respects people of all faiths, including atheists, in public schools. Nor does one have to do an "end run" around the Constitution to argue in a court of law against the establishment of purely atheistic science in public schools.

But that's not what happened in this case. Had they tried to make that case honestly, we would be having a different discussion.

The board knew that their plan wouldn't pass Constitutional muster through the clear guidelines already set down by the Supreme Court. That's why they tried to hide their real motives, and that's why they tried to hide the money trail. They got caught lying about it, and that's what got them in real trouble - it showed their guilty consciences. They tried an end-run, and fell down in the attempt.

By the way, science doesn't "disrespect" people of faith. It isn't "atheistic." Science is science, its deals with the natural world, and it's neutral to religion.

157 posted on 01/03/2006 4:06:25 PM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
purely atheistic science

There is no such thing. There are atheistic, and theistic, and all other variety of interpretations OF science. Science itself however is neutral apart from a minimal set of assumptions adopted for operational purposes (Occum's Razor, actualism or the uniformity of natural law, etc).

159 posted on 01/03/2006 4:10:56 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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