First TBN drops Lindsey, now Lindsey drops TBN

world net daily ^ | 01/03/06 | wnd

[ElisabethInCincy]

First TBN drops Lindsey, now Lindsey drops TBN Best-selling author says Christian network tried to muzzle his views on radical Islam

[DarthVader]

You got it my friend. I'll keep your health issues in my prayers and your son too. :-)

[danamco]

And when John the Baptist critcized Herod, he was murdered too. If Jesus were here to preach against Paul and Jan, what would they do to Him? They'd have Him ripped to pieces, if He'd let them. They're violently opposed to the Truth. They are darkness. As for Muslims, if they come to Jesus, and renounce and repent of what they do, then they are welcome like anyone else. But if you haven't noticed, they're violently opposed to Him too. An unrepentant muslim? No. An unrepentant homosexual? No. An unrepentant sinner, period? No.


You're quite new here, and edifying seems NOT to be in your vocabulary!
Jesus said: "I did not come to judge the world but to save the world."!!
That means that he came to save sinners like me, Jan and Paul Crouch and I hope, or I KNOW, that you emiller, is among those he would love to save as well!!!

[winker]

Should John Hagee be concerned? Radical Islam doesn't make any points off him; and he tells it like it is!

[Thinkin' Gal]

Did you EVER think that maybe SOMEONE is attracted to that?

The ho' of Babylon and her cats.

[TommyDale]

You are wrong. I spoke truth and everyone knows it.

[TommyDale]

You are out of your mind. You rattle on without knowing anything about me. I personally know people at TBN -- do you?

[Zechariah11]

Check again. A good example of a tax collector was Matthew, a Jew. In fact, one of the reasons tax collectors were so despised was that the Jews felt they were turncoats to their people. You are also wrong about the prostitutes being Cananites.

Recall the Canaanite woman who sought His attention for healing her daughter. At first the Lord wouldn't speak to her. He then essentially told her what I am telling you.

[Zechariah11]

Check again. A good example of a tax collector was Matthew, a Jew. In fact, one of the reasons tax collectors were so despised was that the Jews felt they were turncoats to their people. You are also wrong about the prostitutes being Cananites.

Recall the Canaanite woman who sought His attention for healing her daughter. At first the Lord wouldn't speak to her. He then essentially told her what I am telling you.

[Zechariah11]

We aren't mere disciples. We are sons, and He's my Brother, Jesus.

I suggest you read Revelation 1:18 as to John's reaction to the risen Christ. It wasn't "Jesus, my buddy, let me give you a hug."

[Matchett-PI]

"Does God want us to be rich? Certainly not. ...It just breaks my heart that the Crouches have deceived so many people."

Of course you're right about the Crouches, but what about you, yourself? LOL

Ecclesiastes 5:8-20: "...as for every man to whom God has given riches and wealth, He has also empowered him to eat from them and to receive his reward and rejoice in his labor; this is the gift of God. 20 For he will not often consider the years of his life, because God keeps him occupied with the gladness of his heart. .."

Psalms 62:10 Don’t try to get rich by extortion or robbery. And if your wealth increases, don’t make it the center of your life.

Scripture teaches three basic principles about wealth.

First, wealth itself is not condemned. For example, we read in Genesis 13:2 that Abraham had great wealth. In Job 42:10 we see that God once again blessed Job with material possessions. In Deuteronomy, Proverbs, and Ecclesiastes, wealth is seen as evidence of God's blessing (Deut. 8; 28; Prov. 22:2; Eccles. 5:19).

But even though wealth might be an evidence of God's blessing, believers are not to trust in it. Proverbs, Jeremiah, 1 Timothy, and James all teach that the believer should not trust in wealth but in God (Prov. 11:4; 11:28; Jer. 9:23; 1 Tim. 6:17; James 1:11; 5:2).

Second, when wealthy people in the Bible were condemned, they were condemned for the means by which their riches were obtained, not for the riches themselves. The Old Testament prophet Amos railed against the injustice of obtaining wealth through oppression or fraud (4:11; 5:11). Micah spoke out against the unjust scales and light weights with which Israel defrauded the poor (6:1). Neither Amos nor Micah condemned wealth per se; they only denounced the unjust means by which it is sometimes achieved.

Third, Christians should be concerned about the effect wealth can have on our lives. We read in Proverbs 30:8-9 and Hosea 13:6 that wealth often tempts us to forget about God. Wealthy believers may no longer look to God for their provision because they can meet their basic needs. We read in Ecclesiastes 2 and 5 that people who are wealthy cannot really enjoy their wealth. Even billionaires often reflect on the fact that they cannot really enjoy the wealth that they have. Moreover, Proverbs 28:11 and Jeremiah 9:23 warn that wealth often leads to pride and arrogance.

So the Bible does not condemn those who are wealthy. But it does warn us that if God blesses us with wealth, we must keep our priorities straight nd guard against the seductive effects of wealth.

Wealth and Poverty

[Zechariah11]

You are taking the Jewish idiom which Christ used and applying it literally. Two of the rich believers in Christ were Nicodemus and Joseph of Arimethea who provided the tomb for Christ. It is also probable that Matthew was well to do. James and John were likely in successful fishing business with their father, Zebedee. Lazarus, the bother of Mary and Martha, were well to do. Some of the women followers were well off. Remember when Christ raised the 13 year old girl who mourners thought was dead? He was a rich man who had built a synagogue for the Jews.

So what does Christ mean? Perhaps, he is referring to that feeling of self-sufficiency which comes with wealth which leads one far from seeking the help of the Heavenly Father.

[P8riot]

I helped build TBN's first studio in the 1970's. It was during the height of the "Jesus movement" and I was a young Christian who was looking to do something for the Lord and believed that this was something I was called to do. I got to meet the Crouches and they struck me as sincere (Jan didn't even have the big hair and Tammy Faye make-up back then). It wasn't until the mid 80's when I saw them again that it became apparent that they had let their financial success go to their heads. It is a crying shame that folks with such a great vision sold it out for a "mess of pottage."

[investahoy]

No, I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. Youa re the one, who, to me, seems to be very mean-spirited. I know it's probably difficult for you to see, in yourself, but believe me, it's there. I think emiller has brought up some good points, and criticizing the Crouches doesn't imply envy, or hatred, it's just a natural function of the fact that they violate many spiritual principles. There's nothing wrong with criticizing someone when they're actually doing wrong. Admonishing them. I'm oging to have to disagree. You to me, remind me of the witch hunters of salem. You've thrown out some real hateful doozies. Good luck to you. I'm only trying to be honest.

[richpoore]

Remarkable. Defending the Crouches makes you sould like you're defending scientology. And your theory about not judging someone if you don't know them. Me, I've never met Hitler, or Charles Manson, but I understand they were completely loopy.

I like your-- "You are judgemental and not a Christian like me-- repent or burn brother". You are freaking me out. Creepy.

[spocko]

Now, now boys/girls. This is just getting nasty. LS, take some prozac and a little nap. Emiller, don't play with your food. Everyone back to their corners and let's remember this is about Hal. I love Hal. I miss him already. Boo hoo.

Make nice nice.

[A CA Guy]

Hal will show up somewhere I am sure.

I think that TBN who has satellite studios around the world figures Islam would start attacking those studios if TBN let Hal go after any part of Islam.

It's fear IMO.

[nuclady]

Thanks for your comments tonight. I was once enamored and taken with the Kenneth Copeland crowd, for many years. I finally found the truth, and I refuse to watch TBN or the rest of the "blab it and and grab it" crowd.

Everyone should read Revelation 2 and 3. The most important chapters of that book (letters to the churches). We are truly seeing the Laodicea church (the church in its final state of apostacy) right now.

"He that hath an ear to hear, let him hear what the Spirit saith to the churches."

[leaf errickson]

Why doesn't everyone stop complaining about their differences with some brother or sister and go out a save some souls themselves. Make good use of your time while it is still day. Senseless little immature christians is all I have to say.

[A CA Guy]

My mom was a weekly volunteer down there from the 70s thru the early 90s.

I think they were very into growing, being profitable, but on at least some level were trying to help people who contacted them.
My mom often was down there praying with people on lines and she never got a nickle for it. So she would be proof that something sincere was happening there also among the theatrics.
My mom was even doing that while she herself was dying from breast cancer, so there were people down their honestly trying to serve others for the Lord for sure.
Do I think TBN has had problems for a long time? Yep!

[Jim Robinson]

investahoy aka emiller banned.