Posted on 12/30/2005 2:39:00 PM PST by quidnunc
Invading Canada won't be like invading Iraq: When we invade Canada, nobody will be able to grumble that we didn't have a plan.
The United States government does have a plan to invade Canada. It's a 94-page document called "Joint Army and Navy Basic War Plan — Red," with the word SECRET stamped on the cover. It's a bold plan, a bodacious plan, a step-by-step plan to invade, seize and annex our neighbor to the north. It goes like this:
First, we send a joint Army-Navy overseas force to capture the port city of Halifax, cutting the Canadians off from their British allies.
Then we seize Canadian power plants near Niagara Falls, so they freeze in the dark.
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(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
Oh, c'mon.... No sense of humour?
Wouldn't you think it funny if you discovered your best friend
and neighbour had planned (albeit sometime in the past), that he had a plan
to invade your home and use poison gas and bombs on your family?
Oh, hell........I know that the U.S. has contingencies for EVERYthing. Frankly, if Canada doesn't as well (including, say, an attack on Venezuela or Ethiopia or Tibet), then they're damned fools.
That isn't the point. I don't care the subject matter; I DO care that the Compost felt free to publish the contents of a classified document; a Secret document, at that.
Call me old fashioned.....but I spent too many years flying for the Strategic Air Command during the Cold War to be cavalier with secrets.
And would somebody please be kind enough to start a Live Thread about 5AM EST next Saturday? I'll start posting updates after I get across.
This question was posed to President Wilson when someone asked him "What if the Germany accepts the 14-points and Britain refuses them?" His answer: "Well, if that happens we will be at war with Britain."
It was not inconceivable.
I think they followed through on that one a few times. ;-)
Dibs on Vancouver Island and Victoria. Oh and Banff and Whistler (so I can get ski revenue -- I personally hate skiing)
The rest can become part of Massachusetts.
Agreed. I know that Canada did have a plan to take at least one
country by force - The Netherlands in 1944-45.
And I know they were successful cause my grandparents, uncles
and aunts were right there to greet them..
Cheers & happy New Year.... ;)
All we need to do is cut off access to stateside medical facilities, and half your population will either die or be hopelessly stuck in a waiting queue. Then, the next time a Commonwealth refugee comes to Toronto with some third world flu strain, the survivors might finally revolt and get rid of the socialists for us.
Happy New Year, friend........may God bless you and yours in this coming year and all to come.
Hey, we won the Great Pig War.
Funny stuff. However, I'm sure that military planners and the intelligence people have plans for just about anything that crosses their minds, just in case, which I would guess also includes Alaskans declaring independence, alien invasion, megavolcanic eruptions, asteriod strikes, and, who knows, even sending a delegation to Jerusalem in the event of the second coming.
But...
Once, in the fall of 1977, I went for an interview to be an intern at the Carnegie Endowment for Peace in Washington, DC. Nice guys. They peppered me with all sorts of questions about a place called Baluchistan, what I knew about politics of the region, and so forth. I assume that I would have been researching for someone who would be writing reports about the prospects in the area and what it meant geopolitically. I didn't get a call back (for good reasons). About a year later, the Soviets invaded Afganistan, and Baluchistan was one of the places in which Americans and Communists faced each other. I wonder still about who knew what.
Sure, an invasion of Canada seems loopy... right now. Who knows where countries and cultures can travel? Let's say they continue leftist - along with much of South America - and some of those countries form a loose alliance. Someone stirs Canadians to nationalistic pride with uplifting rhetoric and uses the United States as a punching bag - and someone else, such as China or the EU, becomes the main source of goods and services. There's a few incidents. Terrorists successfully stage an incident from a Canadian base. The Minutemen have a scuffle with some Canadian citizens. There are trade restrictions and tariffs, and some Americans are arrested for "hate speech" violations when they evangelize across the border. Strong words are shared. The Great Lakes are closed off from international shipping lanes. We have information that Chavez-supported terrorists are planning more attacks from a stronghold near Hamilton, Ontario. Now what?
And I have to admit that coming up with that little alternate history was a lot of fun. No doubt that planners of the document in this Post article had the same kind of fun, too. In reality, I don't see any trouble, but fortune smiles on the prepared.
Well, the only reason it's secret is to keep just this sort of thing from happening. The plans are ancient and unworkable. My guess is that this would backfire on Martin if he tried to make too big a deal of this. It would reveal a very embarassing military situation.
France had all of the 1930's to develop such a plan.
That is excellent alternative history. Each step is plausible. It could flesh out into a novel.
More bad intel..
I know the Hamilton area quite well, and there are no strongholds.. ;-D
All we need to do is cut off access to stateside medical facilities
I think you might be disappointed with the results . On the other hand shall we begin turning off the valves , unhooking the wires , closing the bridges ?
Seriously and unfortunately , there are those who would actually endorse an invasion.
I've said it before . I'm reminded that during the last Quebec referendum when 97% of the natives living in Quebec voted to stay in Canada , someone was asked what if they were just ignored , what could they do about it . The answer was a question . "Do you have any idea how much damage one pissed off Indian could do with a case of dynamite "?
Anyone who thinks that's trivial knows nothing about how vulnerabe the US or Canada really is .
Absolutely. Both nations have miles and miles of totally unguarded infrastructure: powerlines, pipelines, roads, bridges, dams and locks, harbor channels.
The document was declassified in 1974.
What was that old saying I have heard from some of my favorite folks:
"Be humble, be polite, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet?" or some such thing.
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