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UPDATE 2-EU launches Galileo satellite, challenging U.S.
Reuters ^ | Wed Dec 28, 2005 09:19 AM ET | By Richard Balmforth

Posted on 12/28/2005 11:57:41 AM PST by Jordi

MOSCOW, Dec 28 (Reuters) - The European Union launched its first Galileo navigation satellite on Wednesday, moving to challenge the United States' Global Positioning System (GPS).

Russian space agency Roskosmos said the 600 kg (1,300 lb) satellite named Giove-A (Galileo In-Orbit Validation Element) went into its orbit 23,000 km (15,000 miles) from the earth after its launch on a Soyuz rocket from the Baikonur cosmodrome in the middle of Kazakhstan's steppe.

"The launch of Giove is the proof that Europe can deliver ambitious projects to the benefit of its citizens and companies," said EU Transport Commissioner Jacques Barrot in a statement.

The 3.6 billion-euro ($4.27-billion) Galileo programme, due to go into service in 2008 and eventually deploy 30 satellites, may end Europe's reliance on the GPS and offer a commercial alternative to the GPS system run by the U.S. military.

"Radio-navigation based on Galileo will be a feature of everyday life, helping to avoid traffic jams and tracking dangerous cargos," Barrot said.

The GPS is currently the only worldwide system offering services ranging from driver assistance to search-and-rescue help. Critics say its services for civilians offer less precision than those for military or intelligence purposes.

Galileo's accuracy in positioning is to be one metre (3 feet) or less, while the GPS's precision is more than 5 metres.

EU officials also say Galileo would never be switched off for strategic reasons, which might be the case with the GPS.

If successful, the satellite will mark a major step in Europe's biggest ever space programme, involving firms such as European aerospace giant EADS, France's Thales (TCFP.PA: Quote, Profile, Research) and Alcatel (CGEP.PA: Quote, Profile, Research) , Britain's Inmarsat (ISAT.L: Quote, Profile, Research) , Italy's Finmeccanica (SIFI.MI: Quote, Profile, Research) and Spain's AENA and Hispasat.

SYMBOL OF SUCCESS?

Galileo's critics say it is an unnecessary exercise in political grandeur, which is unlikely to be commercially viable, as GPS is free of charge and will soon be upgraded.

But advocates point to its future role in Europe's new air-traffic system and plans to integrate it with mobile telephone services, which should provide ample business opportunities.

Like aircraft Airbus, Galileo could be become a symbol of success that Europe needs at a time of economic stagnation of political rifts.

The system will be organised as a public-private partnership, with the Commission wanting two-thirds of the funding to come from industry and the rest from public coffers.

Galileo, which is developed with the help of several non-European countries including Ukraine, Israel and China, will create about 140,000 jobs in Europe, EU officials say.

The European Union and the United States clinched a deal last year on making Galileo compatible with the GPS.

Washington had been initially unhappy about Galileo, saying it could pose a potential security threat as its signals could interfere with those of the next-generation GPS.

The Giove-A satellite will test key new technologies such as on-board atomic clocks, signal generators and user receivers. The second, Giove-B satellite is to be launched in the spring. (Additional reporting by Marcin Grajewski in Brussels)


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Israel; Russia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: esa; eu; europe; europeanunion; galileo; galileosatellite; satellite; space; spacerace
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To: mtbopfuyn

The system will be worldwide.


21 posted on 12/28/2005 12:39:22 PM PST by toadthesecond
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To: jveritas
Never said Europe is way ahead in space technology. Just said that now (2005/06 ,not 1969) the US aren't way ahead. Just compare present space activities, neither history nor programs.

If it's annoying for you, it's not my fault.

22 posted on 12/28/2005 12:45:28 PM PST by Jordi ("I prefer the heaven for the climate , the hell for the company")
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To: Jordi
You seems more French than German to me in the way you use this twisted logic. It is a joke to compare your European space program to ours. Name one major space technology invented by the European space program.
23 posted on 12/28/2005 12:51:20 PM PST by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: GunnyHartman
Don't forget the Huygens faux-pas. They (ESA) turned off one of the real time data channels from the Cassini relay as
the probe descended on to Titan.

I don't remember if Cassini buffered any of it.

24 posted on 12/28/2005 1:00:59 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: toadthesecond

The question then, assuming it works, is how much is a Galileo receiver compared to a GPS one?


25 posted on 12/28/2005 1:05:55 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Pondman88
I think I read on spacedaily.com that it's already pushed back two years for commercial availability.

OTOH, the Russians finally got around to putting up three more of their GLONASS birds.

26 posted on 12/28/2005 1:09:24 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Red Badger
They couldn't find their butts in the dark with two hands, a flashlight and a map.............

-- and written instructions from the Gay Rights League.
27 posted on 12/28/2005 1:09:47 PM PST by Fatuncle (Were I not ignorant, I would not be here to learn things from you.)
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To: Jordi

UPDATE 2-EU launches Galileo satellite, challenging U.S.

Sure.


28 posted on 12/28/2005 1:13:17 PM PST by toddlintown (Lennon takes six bullets to the chest, Yoko is standing right next to him and not one f'ing bullet?)
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To: tarepeter


In a related story, after the ESA grudgingly admitted Red China's involvement in it's development, the Galileo satellite mysteriously disappeared from radar shortly after achieving its orbital destination.
29 posted on 12/28/2005 1:13:31 PM PST by GunnyHartman (Allah is allah outta virgins.)
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To: jveritas
A recent thread:

ESA Accelerates Towards A New Space Thruster (better than the Ion engine

anyway I do not claim any kind of supremacy of Europe's technology (just on cars perhaps) albeit I visited the impressive CERN and they claim they invented the Internet

My point: ESA's activities are of interest notably because with a smaller budget they follow NASA's path at close distance.

30 posted on 12/28/2005 1:13:49 PM PST by Jordi ("I prefer the heaven for the climate , the hell for the company")
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To: Jordi
Thanks for that link to the CERN site where they claim they invented the World Wide Web.

Interested, I clicked on the first link in their article (World Wide Web) only to discover that the link doesn't work!

LOL! They invented the World Wide Web, but don't know how it works. Très European, no?

31 posted on 12/28/2005 1:23:29 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead

The page is from 1995. You can find newer ones. Or do I have to do all the job??


32 posted on 12/28/2005 1:28:37 PM PST by Jordi ("I prefer the heaven for the climate , the hell for the company")
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To: Jordi
The ion engine is still a concept on paper thus it is not an invention until we have a real one. This concept was first introduced in the US many years ago and I bet you that if it will become a real thing it will be first built here in the US and not anywhere else. Regarding the Internet, it was used first by the US military in the 60's and came into limited civilian use in the 80's and it was not made world wide until the US made it so in the early 90's. Anyone who claim invention, developing or spreading of the Internet other than the US is living in a fantasy world of delusions.
33 posted on 12/28/2005 1:29:43 PM PST by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: Jordi
The page is from 1995. You can find newer ones. Or do I have to do all the job??

You don't have to do anything Jordi. You just sit there.

We all believe that Europeans invented the internet. Really. We do. And they have a very very impressive space program. Always have.

Those wonderfully inventive, creative and industrious europeans. Is there nothing they can't do?

34 posted on 12/28/2005 1:32:01 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Jordi
One more very important thing to add. There is a huge migration of scientific brains from Europe to the US because in the US these scientists are paid much more money, and they have much more funds available for their research. In other word all your brains belong to us.
35 posted on 12/28/2005 1:33:26 PM PST by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: dead
Most Europeans suffer from an acute syndrome of delusions of greatness and self importance. You notice that everything they do, they always have the US in their mind and how they can compete with the US. They are very jealous and emotional about it that it will always lead them to lose big to the US and stay behind the US in every level of economy, military, technology etc...
36 posted on 12/28/2005 1:36:57 PM PST by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: jveritas
The ion engine is still a concept on paper thus it is not an invention until we have a real one.

Only the European ion engine is still a concept on paper.

The US launched Deep Space One in 1998 with an ion propulsion engine built by Hughes Space and Communication. It was the first craft to use an ion drive as its primary propulsion. It successfully rendezvoused with two asteroids and outperformed all expectations on a mission that was extended twice.

37 posted on 12/28/2005 1:42:08 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: jveritas
Same for the telephone. You say it was invented by Graham Bell didn'you? Inventions are not created from cosmic vacuum. Sometimes there are parallel developments ,other times a "new" invention is simply an add-on to older ones. Usually packing up known technologies with improvements is "inventing". If I were a Nazi nostalgic I would say the US-USSR space race of the 60's started with rocket technology stolen from the Nazis,and in the early years the Soviets made a better use of it (remember Sputnik?).

A better measure of technology developments than listing up inventions is how many things you do and at what cost.

38 posted on 12/28/2005 1:43:18 PM PST by Jordi ("I prefer the heaven for the climate , the hell for the company")
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To: jveritas

I should add that I have little doubt that, despite the success of Deep Space One (which was retired in 2001), the Europeans will "invent" the ion propulsion system in a decade or so.


39 posted on 12/28/2005 1:43:57 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Jordi

Ask yourself this how many times have the europeans sent a man into space without the help of the US or the Russians? Answer: Zero


40 posted on 12/28/2005 1:45:25 PM PST by MARKUSPRIME
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