Posted on 12/27/2005 7:13:51 AM PST by No Blue States
"...how in the world could the AVERAGE be 10,000?"
It's our instant gratification society. Kids, when they begin working real jobs just assume they should be equal with mom and dad. Back in the day, we bought used cars and starter homes. Now they build the big new 2500 sq. ft. home and buy two new cars. That is how many get into it. It's a trap. They feel pressure to take on enough debt to get all those things now.
And then there are those that just have a run of bad luck, unexpected illness, etc. $10k in expenses can happen pretty fast.
Given those two groups, I can see the average cc debt being $10k.
IMO, if you do happen to carry a balance, shop CC offers of less than 10% fixed APR's for the life of your loan and set up automatic drafts to pay the bill before the due date(s) in case you happen to forget one. Set up a checking account with overdraft protection if you're one who runs their checking account balances to the minimums because it's far better to let the overdraft protection kick in than to get stuck with 24.9% plus interest. With a $10,000 balance, the difference from 18% to >10% - preferrably less than 8% - could mean a difference of complying with the new law under the current payment schedule and your payments doubling.
But, what do I know?
Debt can drive people to suicide.
At one point I briefly thought of offing myself "accidentily" so they could collect my life insurance and become financially stable.
I probably shouldnt admit that here, but people should be slow to ridicule others who are facing financial hardships.
No, Im going to live hell or high water and make it over this self created crisis. And I will be stronger on the other side. My family will be financially secure then.
We both grew up dirt poor, never having much so the CC temptation was not something we were able to handle well.
Im ashamed of the poistion I put my family in.
We both work our A**es off and clear about 60k.
"The house is paid for and the only debt we have is my vehicle."
If my house was paid for I would have a problem either. Good job.
Budgeting and credit cards are more of an ongoing hands on learning experience that is difficult to teach in a classroom. Taking the kids with you to the grocery store and mall so they can comparison shop is a very useful teaching tool. Instilling in them the difference between a want and a need is a must. Let them decide if they want that $100 pair of designer jeans to wear every single day or look in the sales rack for five or more pairs of jeans. Hmm, do they really need 5 new pairs of jeans or can they save those extra bucks or use them for something else they really need?
Have you ever listened to Dave Ramsey's radio show, or read his book? He's got a great approach to climbing out of financial holes.
"My pet peeve is the fact that our schools do a piss poor job, if they even do it at all, of educating kids on personal economics, especially when it comes to credit cards. "
I couldn't agree more. Wouldn't it be nice if personal finance were required, and they quit teaching about why Johnny has 2 mommies. I would think that 2 semsters of personal finance would give a good foundation. Checkbook management, credit card management, retirement planning, insurance, mortgages, and intro to the stock market.
I would have benefitted greatly from that kind of education!
And imagine how many of those irresponsible people declare bankruptcy and turn their debts over to the rest of us.
Good, no excuse not to pay them off quicker.
Thanks for the tips. Next month we plan to get a month ahead on the big CC payment because as I told me wife if anything happened that caused us to be late the interest would go sky high. I will also call them all and ask for lower rates.
I'll give you to the count of one!
There are no easy ways out of a financial mess. You're going to pull it off with hard work, common sense budgeting, and discipline. And from your tone, I believe you've got the testicular fortitude to see it through.
Best of luck for you and your family.
Some people can be irresponsible, but when the large segment of the population starts to get in trouble it is a systemic problem. The Great Depression was not caused by the epidemic of irresponsibility. Germans or Americans of 1930s were not lazy people.
I rarely ever used credit cards, but about three or four years ago, I stopped compeletly. I use my debit card, or cash. Of cousrse there are times when buying airline tickets, rental cars, etc a card is necessary. My debit card is also my CC. The only consumer credit item I owe in a mortgage. It's a great feeling not to have payments.
And not to have children. And to share the room with illegal aliens.
Thanks for the encouragement Bro.
Im working all the OT I can get and if need be I
will sell my car and drive a clunker.
After having this recent financial awakening, Im more optimistic because when I make my mind up to do something
failure is not an option.
LOL!
Children yes, aliens no. They never want to pay their share of expenses and what money they do have they wire back home.
Actually, my wife an I were talking on the way home from the Christmas visits yesterday about people and finances.
I really think that conservatives did many in their tent a dis-service when they came up with the phrase "class envy" to counter the phrase "conspicious consumption".
Instead of making encouraging a wary eye toward those whose life if about the toys, whether they can afford it nor not, it became a taboo to have "class envy".
There's a place for both, when kept in context. But a blanket sweep of "class envy" being taboo is not healthy.
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