Posted on 12/26/2005 1:48:12 PM PST by SunSetSam
Atheist icon Madalyn Murray OHair has, during this Christmas season, something very few of us get the benefit of. She has perspective. In 1995 she was kidnapped and killed by the office manager for American Atheists, David Roland Waters. Her body did not turn up until 2001. She had been cut up into a dozen pieces by her fellow Atheist and left in a shallow Texas grave as food for critters who sport an exo-skeleton as well as apathy for the personal politics of the carcass that is providing them sustanence.
Only two people know what Madalyns last moments were like; Waters, and Murray OHair herself. Death was a certainty, and the best she could hope for (if her personal beliefs were correct) was a quick passage into non-existence, and the return or her earthly remains to the bottom of the food chain.
How depressing a thought is that? If youre an atheist, your BEST case scenario after a short life is non-existance, and that is only IF you are right. No wonder atheists are so crabby. What is actually worse for these folks is that very few Atheists are actually true Atheists. Many, even possibly Madalyn Murray OHair, hold a very deep belief in God, but they hate him. Her actions, as well as the ones of those who follow her, are the acts of people who are trying to prosecute a war against their Creator.
Regardless of our beliefs, we will all taste death, what happens after that seems to be the bone of contention. In the Atheist rhetoric, people get seventy or eighty short years, and then nothingness. If this was something they actually believed, most would not care if there is a cross at the Soledad National War Memorial, prayer in school, or an acknowledgement of God in the Pledge of Allegiance. For all they should care, believers could pray to Jesus, Buddha, or Mr. Bubble. It would simply be irrelevant to them. It is obvious though, they do care very deeply who you pray to.
Atheists seem very quiet when Federal, State, and City funds or facilities are used for religions that are not Christian. There is no outcry of separation of church and state when the Dali Lama speaks at a public college or university. Very little is also said by the atheists of Muslim headscarves being worn in public schools. Chanukah decorations or the Muslim crescent on public ground dont get their ire up, either. They do have a fit if a high school student bows their head before lunch and gives thanks to God. They demand that kids who wear crosses or bring bibles to school either get rid of the offending object or be sent home (in some cases suspended). Atheists are now supporting the banning of private Bible Studies in the private of dorm rooms of students who happen to attend public colleges. In short, atheists point their aggression towards the one religion they seem scared to death of, Christianity.
Last time I checked, Christians were not performing drive by baptisms against atheists. There is no persecution of anyone who doesnt wear a cross. Christianity should not pose any tangible threat to these people. Despite this, they seem determined to spend their very few years of existence bitterly fighting something which does not try to harm them.
Atheists in the Western World live in a civilization where they can fill their lives with every type of pleasure imaginable. In a short life that ultimately results in nothingness, a true atheist would live for their own transient happiness, because that is all they really have. If they were intellectually honest, they would use the energy they expend in a futile fight against Christianity in the west and direct it against the Muslim faith that is practiced in third world countries. This is a sect that would, if given the chance, deny them the sort of pleasure that we take granted, and seriously limit the quality of their short existence. They dont believe in Allah, though. He is no more real to them than Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy. To them, fighting against Allah would be like shadow boxing, but because they believe in the Christian God, and dont want any reminders of certain uncomfortable inevitable events, they must do their best to wipe society clean of all symbols of Christianity. Christmas, and all its religious imagery tops this list of things that must go.
Christmas is hard on atheists. If they actually believed the truth that there is no God, and nothing beyond this life, they would simply shrug the whole thing off, and take advantage of the holiday sales. Even though that mother they pass in the store, holding the hand of her four year old, and humming Hark the Herald Angels Sing obviously hasnt bought into the truth, the thought of a Savior born in Bethlehem makes her happy. Her end will be the same as the atheists, so no harm, no foul, right? Once again, this only works if these folks really dont believe in God.
To the atheist, Christmas is the outward expression and amplification of all the fears and doubts they wont publicly acknowledge. In those private moments, those solitary moments, those laying in bed and thinking at three in the morning moments, there is that tiny little voice that talks about death and it just wont shut up. It is the feeling of hopeless doubt and fear that grips the mind and just wont let go until you drown it out with the television, a stiff drink, or an entire bag of Oreos. Most Christians remember those moments. Christmas is the celebration of the silencing of this voice and the laying impotent of this fear.
There is a joy to Christmas that atheists simply, voluntarily, opt out of. To them the holiday is just something from Target wrapped in pretty paper that is soon forgotten. To Christians it is the gift of a child that ensures our best case scenario is better than a shallow grave in Texas and nonexistence (not to mention the nullifying of a worst case scenario that is beyond imagination). Christians celebrate out of gratitude for what our creator has bestowed upon us, but Christmas is actually more for that atheist who is suing school children for bringing a bible to class, than it is for the Christian. Christians enjoy Christmas, atheists need Christmas. The child it celebrates acts as a constant lifeline that is available to them whether they want it or not. Oddly, though, that seems to be the part they resent the most.
We know why atheists try to ruin Christmas for everyone else. It is out of fear and sheer hate of a God they believe in. The last few years have not been kind to their efforts, and reversal of legal fortunes has ensured that the lifeline for the atheist is still visible, especially at this time of year.
We now live in an atmosphere where going out and caroling has become an act of defiance, many Christians are getting war-weary of fighting the annual holiday battle (as well as fighting the other shoppers, the logistics of family, the snow, frustrated hunters who will settle for shooting an arrow into your light-up deer when they have failed to kill a real one, etc), for them I leave these simple words as a reminder of what the whole thing is all about:
Mild he lays his glory by; born that man no more may die; Born to raise the sons of earth born to give them second birth
Merry Christmas
You are as dense as a block of lead, aren't you.
Point me to a single post where I denied that they were targeting Christianity specifically. You can't do it. In fact, I have stated several times that I agree that they are targeting Christianity.
As I have said repeatedly, but you have been completely incapable of comprehending, I am questioning the reasons why this is the case as proposed by the author of this article.
As for your points, and agreement about the persecution, your explanation is "because Christians are the biggest group". That doesn't make a lick of sense, especially considering the fact that Christians do not persecute atheists.
So what? Where did I say that atheists are justified in their aggression? But what I am saying is that if another religion were dominant in this country, those atheists would be going after them as well---again, whether "justified" by your definition or not.
So the aggression is not warranted, unless there is something deeper there.
Again, this is further proof you're reading more into our statements than is there. Nowhere did I say that their aggression is warranted, and my claims do not require it.
I don't happen to think that Christians are wrong in expecting our culture to remain sympathetic to, and reflective of, our beliefs. I happen to think that those in minority religions, including atheism, should simply recognize and accept the dominant culture around them; and as long as we're not forcing them to adopt our views, they should just deal with it. Instead, we have this new idea that people are oppressed simply because they're in the minority, which is a load of BS. In the name of separation of church and state (a false doctrine to begin with), we Christians ought to just shut the hell up and keep our faith private so that everyone else doesn't need to see it.
But you know what, that's happening in all sorts of arenas, not just the religious one. Our kids don't read the classics anymore, because that means they're not reading enough literature written by minorities, or gays, or women, or some other oppressed group. Nevermind the fact that the very definition of marriage assumes a man and a woman are involved; we're just going to have to change that because it doesn't respect the minority view that, well, you can marry whomever you want. Oh, and let's not praise the freedoms of this country too much, either, because that's offensive to people from other countries. How dare we expect people to learn English when they move here so they can properly assimilate into our economy; we have to print government materials in 10 different languages instead.
So it seems to me that the challenge is yours to establish that there is more going on than just this culture of minority offense.
But if these same atheists lived in an Islamic country, it seems clear to me that their hatred would be redirected. Your atheist "friend", for example, might choose upside-down Islamic crescents for decor.
Of course, she would likely be beaten to death for such heresy, so maybe not.
By the way, have you considered telling your atheist friend about Peter's chosen method of execution---crucifixion on an upside-down cross, believing he was not worthy to be executed in the same manner as Jesus? It might get her goat if you walked into the house and said, "Wow, look at all those St. Peter's Crosses, that's great!" :)
I never thought of that. Great idea! Thanks
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