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"The "Henry the VIII created the Anglican Church" is really B.S. It was happening and he saw the writing and pushed it along for his selfish purposes."

He had good political purposes for pushing it along, as well. Rome was defunding England by not replacing Bishops (and a diocese without a Bishop sent its funds directly to Rome)

But no matter, England was restored to communion after Henry VIII death - and "Bloody Mary" proceeded to do what she did with nary a peep from Rome - thereby ensuring it's demise in England - as the Catholic Church became associated with death, mayhem, and the desired destruction of England herself.

The English made a rational choice that favored God and Country over the politicians in Rome that wanted Spain to defeat England.

So, Blame Henry VIII and condemn him to hell, but he was probably a better Catholic than than the Catholics that think he's in hell are today.

The Catholic church of that era was a political and religious institution. Protestants saw the folly of this and that is one reason why we have the great country we have today in the U.S. - and why Protestant tolerance enshrined in our Constitution allows ALL faiths to be practiced relatively free from government interference.

Of course, there may be one or two folks that disagree on this thread.......

Dear RFEngineer,

"Protestant tolerance..."

You mean like the Protestant tolerance shown in the colony of Maryland? Founded by Catholics, the folks who passed the first Religious Tolerance Act in the Western world, then taken over by Protestants, who promptly repealed the religious tolerance laws and robbed the founding Catholics of their civil rights?

You mean that Protestant tolerance??

Merry Christmas!!

;-)

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But no matter, England was restored to communion after Henry VIII death - and "Bloody Mary" proceeded to do what she did with nary a peep from Rome - thereby ensuring it's demise in England - as the Catholic Church became associated with death, mayhem, and the desired destruction of England herself

Oh come on! Even if Mary had been a perfect monarch, there's no way that the English nobility would've accepted full communion with the Church after confiscating all the land from the monasteries. Would they really be willing to give back all that wealth?

There's no way that Queen Elizabeth would've accepted communion with the Church because she would be forced to acknowlege that she was not the legitimate heir to the throne.

Such fine Protestant tolerance like the Blaine Amendments?

What wonderful tolerance such unbigoted men like James Blaine demonstrated in their desire to see Catholic kids freed from their religious prison and given the chance to study the KJV in public schools -- while having the laws changed to ban any public funds from going to Catholic schools.

What wonderful tolerance has been demonstrated by our Protestant friends over the years!

but he was probably a better Catholic than than the Catholics that think he's in hell are today.

How many contemporary Catholics have been married six times and are executing two of their spouses?

You've obviously forgotten to have a water load in place of the antenna when you're testing that transmitter on more than one occasion.

Henry wanted political freedom and the ability to marry and divorce when he wanted to. He also wanted the church's wealth -- that's why he destroyed the monastic communities and confiscated their land and wealth. Would I condemn him to hell? No. It's not my place to judge. He did commit atrocities, but you are right in saying that dogmatically he was pretty much Catholic.