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Female Monk Causes a Stir (Madison, WI)
JSOnline ^ | December 23, 2005 | Sheila Lalwani

Posted on 12/25/2005 9:03:20 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

(Madison group supports woman in Thailand who challenges male role in Buddhism)

Bangkok, Thailand - As Buddhist monks roam busy streets swathed in saffron robes, as they lecture in universities and counsel politicians, one monk stands out.

Dhammananda Bhikkhuni, a slight woman with a soft voice and a shaved head, is a female ordained monk in Thailand challenging the male patriarchy of her country. Male monks call her a heretic for getting ordained, which is technically outlawed in Thailand. When she helps other women become ordained, they get angrier.

"We have to prove to society that it is possible that women can lead ordained lives," she says in an interview.

The International Committee for the Peace Council, a non-profit group in Madison, is championing her mission. The council, which believes peace is possible through inter-religious collaboration, offers its moral support and has sent $27,500 since 1996 to assist her.

"She's working to restore equality for women in a particular context that is important in Thai society and all of Southeast Asia," council executive director Daniel Gomez-Ibanez says. "So we support what she is doing."

Miles from the heart of Bangkok's bustling city center and glittery golden temples, Dhammananda set up the headquarters to her religious revolution in a simple, wooden temple in Nakhon Pathom. Several women there are training to be monks. Nearly three years after becoming a full monk, Dhammananda and the issues she fights for remain mired in controversy. Most residents are Buddhist

Out of the roughly 65 million people living in Thailand, about 95% claim Buddhism as their religion. Buddhism, one of the world's largest religions, was founded in present-day Nepal around the 5th century B.C. and later spread across Asia.

In Thailand, the majority of people practice Theravada Buddhism, the oldest and most conservative form of Buddhism.

There are roughly 300,000 bhikkhus, or male monks, and 25,000 temples in Thailand where men can learn about and practice Buddhism. Only a handful of temples focus on women. Women can become nuns, shave their heads and live a religious life, but they receive fewer privileges than male monks.

The issue of women's ordination in the Theravada sect of Buddhism is highly controversial in Thailand and many Asian countries, says Jan Nattier, a professor of Buddhist studies at Indiana University-Bloomington.

It is believed that the Buddha established the bhikkhuni, or female monastic order, 2,500 years ago to give women equal access to spiritual practices. Nattier says the female monks' community disappeared from the Theravada tradition around the 11th or 13th century A.D.

Critics argue that to ordain a female monk, other female and male monks must be present. They say that because ordained female monastics died out in Thailand and the rest of the Theravada world, ordaining a female monk is impossible.

Supporters for women's ordination argue that the Buddhist hierarchy is missing a chance to update its tradition in a time of rapid change for Thailand.

When some Buddhists in Sri Lanka decided several years ago to attempt to restore the order, the first ordinations had to be conducted with the help of Korean and Taiwanese female monastics from different Buddhist traditions, Nattier says.

The issue in Thailand is especially complicated because in 1928, the patriarch of Thailand issued an edict that monks must not ordain women. But, Nattier says, women can still take preliminary monastic vows.

Female ordained monks in Thailand risk social alienation. Some have been imprisoned.

Recalling her calling

At first, Dhammananda says, she wasn't sure she wanted to enter a religious life. She remembers a life that was spent teaching at a local university, writing books and hosting talk shows.

"I was rebellious. It was my life. To be a priest, you have to have that calling from God," she says.

Since 1996, the Peace Council has lent its moral support and contributed money to assist her social missions for women. She has opened a shelter for ex-prostitutes in Thailand. She also serves as a peace advocate with the group.

In 2004, she brought the Wisconsin-based committee to Thailand to address women in religion. At the end of the four-day conference, a statement calling for women's equal rights was proclaimed.

"What she has done, we endorse," says Joseph Elder, a friend and a trustee with the Peace Council.

Raising money

As she continues to advocate for women, Dhammananda says she looks to American Buddhists as role models. They are less focused on gender and more focused on the spirituality, she says.

These days, she's mostly busy with fund-raising for various social causes and advocating for women in Buddhism. Despite intense controversy, she plans to continue helping other women become ordained monks. She says her religion facilitates her being a feminist.

"Whether we are accepted or not, we are here," she says.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: buddhism; religiousleft
Do you think the majority Buddhists in Thailand get the kicking that the majority Christians get here in America? ;)
1 posted on 12/25/2005 9:03:21 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Most likely not.


2 posted on 12/25/2005 9:09:35 AM PST by Gabz
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

"Do you think the majority Buddhists in Thailand get the kicking that the majority Christians get here in America? ;)"

Probably not. I mean I don't hear about temple closings in Thailand, while churches all across America are closing their doors. Protestors stand outside every church in the USA, carrying signs and threatening parishioners, I hear.

Heck, you can't even buy a Christmas tree in the USA any more. All the lots are closed. They've stopped selling nativity scenes in all stores.

It's getting hard to find a Bible these days. I went to Barnes & Noble during my Christmas shopping, and could only find 30-40 different Bibles in the store. There should be an entire row of nothing but Bibles. They're obviously anti-Christian.

And Christian bookstores...what about them? All across this country, they're being shut down by cities and replaced with porno shops.

Cable Television companies have closed down all the religious channels they used to offer. EWTN is gone. TBN is gone. Just go check your TV if you don't believe me.

Yes, it's much worse here for Christians than it is for Buddhists in Thailand....


3 posted on 12/25/2005 9:10:50 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Madison Wisconsin, ah the socialist capital of the United States. Why dose this not surprise me she picked Madison to put up shop.
4 posted on 12/25/2005 9:41:14 AM PST by Duke Wayne
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To: MineralMan

LOL! At least you're consistent in all of your posts. :)


5 posted on 12/25/2005 9:57:57 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I'm sorry, but a woman not having sex is not newsworthy.


6 posted on 12/25/2005 10:02:15 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: AmishDude

Yes, but this one isn't married!


7 posted on 12/25/2005 10:09:25 AM PST by Donald Meaker (You don't drive a car looking through the rear view mirror, but you do practice politics that way.)
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To: Donald Meaker
She needs to keep studying, as her statements show a profound lack of understanding of Buddhism. She says: "I was rebellious. It was my life. To be a priest, you have to have that calling from God,"

However after his Enlightenment the Buddha taught four noble truths. The First is "all things are impermenant and without self nature". Therefore, no God. Specifically called out in Sanskrit as "anata". Also, no soul.

As for the busy bodies in Wisconson, what idiots. I thought they supported "cultural survival" and "tolerance", but here they are forcing their 20th century liberal ideology on a 1000 year old institution. Conform to Hillaryism or die!

8 posted on 12/25/2005 11:19:16 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

There is no better place than America to practice one's religion and conversely no better place to degrade one's religion. Coincidentally there seems to be no better place in America for degradation than Madison Wisconsin. Liberal trash.


9 posted on 12/25/2005 11:23:19 AM PST by TigersEye (They hang traitors don't they?)
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To: AmishDude

LOL! :)


10 posted on 12/25/2005 11:27:15 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Jack Black

She is a Theravadin Buddhist which is from the first basket of teachings. Theravadin and many other Buddhist sects take a very exoteric view of the Buddha. It's the best they can do at that level. Apart from that she sounds like a liberal which means she has no sense at all.


11 posted on 12/25/2005 11:30:17 AM PST by TigersEye (They hang traitors don't they?)
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To: MineralMan

Thirty or forty different Bible's sounds like a lot of variety to choose from.No problem getting a christmas tree here either.


12 posted on 12/25/2005 12:24:21 PM PST by Thombo2
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To: Jack Black
Sorry Jack, you got the four noble truths wrong. They are
1. There is suffering (Dukha)
2. Suffering has a cause (Samudaya)
3. The suffering can be suppressed (Nirodha)
4. By following the Path (magga)

What you are referring to is one of the eightfold (right belief or knowledge) path, the others being right thought, right action, right aspiration, right speech, right conduct, right living, right effort, right re-collectedness, right rapture.

The right belief has Dukkha (suffering), Anika (impermanence), and Anatta (non-ego).

The Buddha never accepted nor denied the existence of God, though he did deny the existence of the soul.
13 posted on 12/25/2005 12:53:35 PM PST by razoroccam (Then in the name of Allah, they will let loose the Germs of War (http://www.booksurge.com))
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To: MineralMan

i like your post.


14 posted on 12/26/2005 6:41:01 AM PST by drhogan
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